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TheDudeAbides

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His numbers are actually fairly similar to quite a few of their good forwards that they had when they were young. Shedrick, Huff, Salt. Those guys were right around there and then progressed in their junior and senior seasons.
Shedrick and Salt didn’t sniff double digits in scoring or rebounding avg, and Huff was a 7-1 guy on a great Tony Bennett team. I’m not sure those examples are proving the point you want them to.
 

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Didn’t make my point clear enough. Those guys were solid on those TB teams. They were. They didn’t average a bunch but they weren’t bad. Huff didn’t average his good numbers until upperclassman years. Buchanan was just a sophomore this year.
 

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Didn’t make my point clear enough. Those guys were solid on those TB teams. They were. They didn’t average a bunch but they weren’t bad. Huff didn’t average his good numbers until upperclassman years. Buchanan was just a sophomore this year.
Really shooting for the stars there ha. We had not bad at home.

I think this is a fair take on how the conference shakes out next yr at this point with still a lot of unknowns.

Some combo of the following 1-4
1 Houston
2 Kansas (Self is not going to allow another down yr)
3 Tech
4 Arizona

That leaves ISU, BYU, and Baylor battling it out for 5th. Could be 5th could be 7th.

Lower expectations might honestly be healthier for next yrs team. The high hopes for this year’s team made the room for error razor thin. Once things started cracking it was tough to keep it together.
 

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I, for one, look forward to a healthy Lipsey putting that twerp Smith in hell while Jefferson facilitates down low. Bring it on.

Cluff is really good, it would’ve been nice if he’d committed. But may I suggest all you doomers organize a group therapy session—at a park, perhaps, so you can literally touch grass. Remember when Iowa State had one of the best back courts in the country on paper, too, and Jackson was scoring in double figures against Auburn? Good times… Unfortunately, by March 4 that meant jack. Why exactly should I care how good Purdue’s roster looks and declare a sixth-place finish (oddly, ridiculously specific) the best case for Iowa State in fr****** March? Gracious, the way some people talk it’s as if Otz’s teams have never beaten opponents that have players who have more raw athleticism or better stats, or were big fish in the portal. Pray tell, who was the number one team in the country preseason? And their NIL budget? Ah, well, surely they’re in the Final Four?…

Hammering people over the head about how it’s really really hard to win a national championship if you don’t have gobs of NIL money is literally just a Debbie Downer sketch—it’s true, but serves no purpose and just makes everyone else annoyed. Following sports is a hobby, sometimes it’s just about getting caught up in the moment and having fun. And hoping for a lucky break. It’s not supposed to be a sober intellectual exercise whose purpose is to continually take account of deficiencies and tally the reasons fans can’t reasonably expect even moderate success. Though I only speak for myself. I don’t watch sports because I think one of the least successful P5 athletics programs in history is going to wake up one day and be Duke basketball or Ohio State football. But delusion and hopelessness aren’t the only paths. Every season, every game, every half something can happen that was previously unexpected and statistically improbable. Maybe Iowa State will make yet another "Iowa State play." Maybe they won’t. We watch to find out. I know I’d be miserable—and therefore wouldn’t watch—if I couldn’t help but fixate on Iowa State’s NIL budget and continually remind myself that on paper they have no realistic chance of success, forever and always
 
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Really shooting for the stars there ha. We had not bad at home.

I think this is a fair take on how the conference shakes out next yr at this point with still a lot of unknowns.

Some combo of the following 1-4
1 Houston
2 Kansas (Self is not going to allow another down yr)
3 Tech
4 Arizona

That leaves ISU, BYU, and Baylor battling it out for 5th. Could be 5th could be 7th.

Lower expectations might honestly be healthier for next yrs team. The high hopes for this year’s team made the room for error razor thin. Once things started cracking it was tough to keep it together.
Since everybody can buy players now, Self has lost his advantage and I don't necessarily see Kansas becoming stellar again. I'd swap BYU for KU in your ranking.
 

CyBurqeuño

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Hammering people over the head about how it’s really really hard to win a national championship if you don’t have gobs of NIL money is literally just a Debbie Downer sketch—it’s true, but serves no purpose and just makes everyone else annoyed.

. I don’t watch sports because I think one of the least successful P5 athletics programs in history is going to wake up one day and be Duke basketball or Ohio State football. But delusion and hopelessness aren’t the only paths. Every season, every game, every half something can happen that was entirely unexpected and statistically improbable. Maybe Iowa State will make yet another Iowa State play. Maybe they won’t. We watch to find out.
Well articulated! You are navigating a “middle path;” that’s wise. And in general, just infinitely more pleasant to be around. Thank you.

Con buenas palabras no hay mal entendedor.
 
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They have Awaka, Krivas, and some stud freshman coming in

And they need a guard to replace Lewis

Very plausible they let him walk to spend big at guard
Scheer hinted at this. They did the same thing with Ballo last year.
 

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Really shooting for the stars there ha. We had not bad at home.

I think this is a fair take on how the conference shakes out next yr at this point with still a lot of unknowns.

Some combo of the following 1-4
1 Houston
2 Kansas (Self is not going to allow another down yr)
3 Tech
4 Arizona

That leaves ISU, BYU, and Baylor battling it out for 5th. Could be 5th could be 7th.

Lower expectations might honestly be healthier for next yrs team. The high hopes for this year’s team made the room for error razor thin. Once things started cracking it was tough to keep it together.
BYU may win the conference next year. They will be stacked.
 

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5th in the conference again would be a good goal. Going to have a good returning core, but will need a lot more production from the new faces this yr. Specifically from the shooters if we aren’t going to get that boost in the post. Really banking on Batemon being an impact freshman.

Meaningful depth that can develop through the season will be the difference on if this team can reach that goal.
Imo this team will look alot like the 2017 that was left after the 2016 letdown. We should have 4 solid returnees but likely a 5-7 seed and a Sweet 16 ceiling.
 
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FinalFourCy

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Rewriting history and acting like injuries didn’t plague this year is fine if you want to play that game. We also literally ended the year top 15 so your last point goes out the window.

We didn’t have major injuries

An injured finger causing a tertiary 3 and D wing, with average defense, to miss 6 games. A groin pull in December. A game missed because of illness.

As I said, conference play is often attritional. That will hurt the underfunded programs the most. 2023-24 is outlier in that we had extremely good luck on availability


Money matters in college athletics more than ever. Much more than even two years ago. This has in-court impacts. This is indisputable
 

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