When I first watched, It looked like Tua was slammed down to me. After I read your comment and watched it again. I agree that it probably wasn't malicious due to the points you mentioned.
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You don't actually know that Tua had a concussion Sunday, keep that in mind.
People act like Tua would have just gotten right up after that hit if he weren't injured Sunday, but they don't know that either.
It's certainly possible that the player, coaches, and medical staff conspired to hide his concussion and if that is the case, all three should be punished for it, and punished severely enough that it serves as a deterrent for anyone else.
This is exactly my stance. I’m all for punishing the organization and independent personnel if it’s found they put Tuas health at risk. I’m not really pro-penalizing the player as that’s just their competitiveness wanting to come back out.
We have people that saw a hit Sunday and a hit Thursday and are coming to conclusions without asking any questions and speak as if their opinion is truth when there is a lot still to be looked at.
Is it normal for players that aren't in the concussion protocol to be checked for concussion symptoms every day?
Eat ****. My opinion is formed by knowing multiple medical professionals and asking them. Admittedly not a medical professional myself, but I know multiple people who work (or used to work) on a neurology floor.
Looks to me like he should have been a no go on Sunday at least based on gross instability, but likely team physicians said he could go anyway using that wishy washy asterisk there.
The NFLPA needs to eviscerate these team physicians.
The dangers from concussions are when you receive multiple in shorter periods of time. They have to err on the side of caution because it's the returning to play too soon (or at all in some cases) part that is killing these guys.
Thanks so much for posting this (with the exception of the initial comment you made). To me, this says he never should have came back into Sunday's game and allowing him back in was a violation of the protocol.
Edit: I didn't realize the asterisk next to the Gross Motor Instability thing, but even if it is his back, wouldn't that still be neurological in a way?
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Well **** if I know multiple neurologists who saw something on video that I can speak to, I’d much rather get their opinion on a head injury than listen to the multiple neurologists who were actually on the field working on the student.
Probably not. I’m not sure why he would be checked. My guess is with the NFLPA being involved, they wanted to be checking in.
I remember Mahomes coming up wobbly in the playoff game against Cleveland a couple of years ago. Never actually hit his head and was not deemed to have a concussion, but since he was wobbly when he got up, they pull him from a freakin' playoff game and he didn't return. He entered protocol that week and easily passed. It ended up being explained as something like blood flow was temporarily cut off to his head due to the tackler's arm being across his neck when he went down and dazed him a bit.
Seems odd that a guy that didn't have a concussion and wasn't in the concussion protocol is getting checked every day for a concussion.
Well not every day the NFLPA is investigating a player for a concussion, so it was probably covering all tracks.
It does make me question how accurate/thorough these protocols are. It doesn't do much good if a player can easily fake his way through it.
A lot of people raking Cubs here when the NFL and NFLPA allowed a system where a "no-go" symptom is actually a "no-go if you can prove it was a concussion and not potentially another injury" symptom.
Until the rules are amended players and doctors can point to back pain or other symptoms and likely go out and play.
Until the rules are amended players and doctors can point to back pain or other symptoms and likely go out and play.
Mike Tomlin is an incredibly unique and rare leader and individual. I would argue every team could learn from his leadership.
