***2021 Iowa HS FB Playoffs Thread***

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Not exactly sure.
I have no idea what anyone could do to allow the DSM publics to be more competitive outside of dropping them all to class A? Because my kids school is 2A.....didn't have a good season at all (won 3 games), and there largest margin of victory was against a DSM public 4A.....45-0.
Like Mason City. When I was in school, everyone wanted to play them, no matter the size, because any decent team would destroy them.
 
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I have no idea what anyone could do to allow the DSM publics to be more competitive outside of dropping them all to class A? Because my kids school is 2A.....didn't have a good season at all (won 3 games), and there largest margin of victory was against a DSM public 4A.....45-0.

The free/reduced lunch equalizer would be a game changer. You'd immediately get more kids out because they know they won't get their brains beat in weekly

It works the other way too. Van Meter has no business in 1A football. Grundy Center has no business in A football. Xavier has no business not being in the largest class.

Money makes the world go round in college athletics and that's magnified 10 times in high school.
 

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This year proves yet again that there has to be a socioeconomic equalizer and that the 16 team suburban only class was by far the best proposal to reorganize everything.

This model made it even harder for the DSM publics, CR other than Kennedy, Davenport, Sioux City, Council Bluffs and Waterloo schools to compete.

There are large, high SES public schools outside the metro: the Iowa City schools, Linn-Mar, CR Kennedy, Cedar Falls come to mind.
 

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The free/reduced lunch equalizer would be a game changer. You'd immediately get more kids out because they know they won't get their brains beat in weekly

It works the other way too. Van Meter has no business in 1A football. Grundy Center has no business in A football. Xavier has no business not being in the largest class.

Money makes the world go round in college athletics and that's magnified 10 times in high school.


How is a free lunch going to equalize things, encourage participation and prevent brains from getting beat? And say what you want about the Van Meter's of the world.....they have only so many students.
 

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There are large, high SES public schools outside the metro: the Iowa City schools, Linn-Mar, CR Kennedy, Cedar Falls come to mind.

Right.

Those 16 were:
Dowling
Valley
SE Polk
Ankeny
Centennial
Johnston
Urbandale
Waukee
Northwest
Xavier
Kennedy
City High
City West
Cedar Falls
Pleasant Valley
Bettendorf
 
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How is a free lunch going to equalize things, encourage participation and prevent brains from getting beat? And say what you want about the Van Meter's of the world.....they have only so many students.
Remember how ISU faired in a conference without revenue sharing, and with a higher number of full scholarships allowed? And how they are doing since, especially with the difference in facilities and staffing? Now does it make sense. Money makes a world of difference.

Also, I love private schools, but privates should play each other when it comes to the postseason. Period.
 

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This year proves yet again that there has to be a socioeconomic equalizer and that the 16 team suburban only class was by far the best proposal to reorganize everything.

This model made it even harder for the DSM publics, CR other than Kennedy, Davenport, Sioux City, Council Bluffs and Waterloo schools to compete.

So what do you mean by a socioeconomic equalizer?

Sure economics comes into play. Families with means have the ability for their kids to get extra training and school equipment is newer & better.

But the real issue is youth sports programs and their communities investment in those activities. Not familiar with youth programs outside DSM, but both Valley & Dowling have long standing youth football programs for middle school kids. A lot of communities don't make that effort.

The other advantage that the successful HS programs has is iron sharpens iron. So success becomes automatic because underclassman practice against A LOT of high quality players. Whereas a program like Roosevelt, Lincoln or East might only have a handful of quality players.

I wish there was a solution, but I doubt if the DSM city schools played at a 2A level they would be successful.
 

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Remember how ISU faired in a conference without revenue sharing, and with a higher number of full scholarships allowed? And how they are doing since, especially with the difference in facilities and staffing? Now does it make sense. Money makes a world of difference.

Also, I love private schools, but privates should play each other when it comes to the postseason. Period.

So who is taking revenue from DSM public?