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[FerShizzle]

Name one Big 12 coach that is worse than Prohm on gamedays?

He is 10th out of 10. He may recruit like a top tier coach and runs a clean program, but when it comes to the 40 minutes that actually matter, he is routinely beat.

 

[CloneFan4]

Losing to Kirk is a lot different than losing to Fran. One is an actual good head coach, and the other one is a meme due to his temper tantrums in games. I'm not sure why people are being so intentionally obtuse about this(well, I do know, but that's not related to the point.) The only thing Kirk and Fran have in common is that they both coach sports at Iowa. It's like if people were trying to compare Fred to Paul Rhoads.

CF might downvote me into oblivion but for as bad as Fran is a man and recruiter, he is a good coach. There is no doubt in my mind that his outbursts and inability to control his emotions heavily effects his in game coaching abilities though

 

[jcisuclones]

The last thing I want is getting in the habit to have a coach for 5 years and then get rid of em. We should give Prohm more time.

Famous last words before complete program collapse. There was a huge chunk of people saying the same thing about Rhoads too.

 

[FerShizzle]

The last thing I want is getting in the habit to have a coach for 5 years and then get rid of em. We should give Prohm more time.

Moving on from Prohm and this are mutually exclusive so....

 

[State43]

I have seen nothing out of CSP that tells me he can out coach anyone. He is a pretty good recruiter and if he has a lot of talent, can win games but I have rarely seen ISU play above talent expectations since his hiring. Game adjustments never seem to be made and our offense seems to suffer when the primary gameplan is challenged which harkens back to adjustments and Prohms inability to capitalize on opposing weaknesses and deviate from specific game plans.

 

[jsb]

I'm not sure whether you're really this dumb or you're just intentionally distorting what I'm saying in your frantic effort to stamp out any criticism of our program. Either way, I'll elaborate.

No, of course I'm not suggesting Prohm share publicly everything he says in private. I agree, that doesn't serve anyone and besides, there's no need - we all knew the source of Lard's issues anyway.

But how many games did we ask ourselves whether Lard was still in the doghouse? Whether he would play at all, much less how many minutes? Is he suspended or not? Once Lard got off his early suspension, it remained a theme throughout the rest of the season, and Prohm's vagueness about it all only fed the issue.

why does it matter if the fans don’t know if lard is in the doghouse? It’s not our business.

 

[Cat Stevens]

I'm not sure whether you're really this dumb or you're just intentionally distorting what I'm saying in your frantic effort to stamp out any criticism of our program. Either way, I'll elaborate.

No, of course I'm not suggesting Prohm share publicly everything he says in private. I agree, that doesn't serve anyone and besides, there's no need - we all knew the source of Lard's issues anyway.

But how many games did we ask ourselves whether Lard was still in the doghouse? Whether he would play at all, much less how many minutes? Is he suspended or not? Once Lard got off his early suspension, it remained a theme throughout the rest of the season, and Prohm's vagueness about it all only fed the issue.

Yeah but I do know you’re not acting here.

holy ****. This is none of your business. It is a private matter between adults and between a coach and player

 

[LutherBlue]

I'll keep watching and cheering for the guys. I hope they find a groove and prove me wrong.

I mostly quit watching
the middle of last year. It was a good decision.

 

[jcisuclones]

CF might downvote me into oblivion but for as bad as Fran is a man and recruiter, he is a good coach. There is no doubt in my mind that his outbursts and inability to control his emotions heavily effects his in game coaching abilities though

I’ll disagree with you here. I don’t think he’s a good coach. I can’t even count the amount of mid-season collapses that Iowa has that typically start around the start of February. Good coaches don’t let their teams collapse. However, I do think that he proved that he’s better than Prohm last night after outcoaching him for the 3.5 time in 5 years.

 

[rochclone]

A couple weeks ago against KSU, that bunch was not competitive, they were a bunch of marshmallow's. They looked cold and disinterested. That thing was over when those winds started hitting ISU in the face when they left the locker room.

They were fortunate KSU did not have a high powered offense.



Drake they won, because it was Drake, but they were not competitive.

It happens.

They beat Drake. They led against KSU in the 3rd quarter. Tough to compare those to be down double digits for 35.5 minutes of a basketball game.

 

[fsanford]

Name one Big 12 coach that is worse than Prohm on gamedays?

He is 10th out of 10. He may recruit like a top tier coach and runs a clean program, but when it comes to the 40 minutes that actually matter, he is routinely beat.

well i think it starts and ends with Shaka'

Last year Prohm split games with Huggins, won 2 of 3 from Weber, split with Beard, went 1-2 against Self and Drew

Best I got..

 

[Snyder21]

Jamie will not fire Prohm unless there is a clear upgrade on the market that he thinks we have a legitimate shot at.

Anybody know of anyone out there that would be a good fit?

 

[BWRhasnoAC]

Agree...but dang, he needs to figure it out defensively....such a liability. If he could just get a little better in that space, he’s got some tools to help this team

In his defense he had a MONSTER block on Garza and was one of the only guards fighting over screens instead of under and running hard. Nixon was bad on offense and went under screens, and Bolton... Just wow.

 

[Trice]

why does it matter if the fans don’t know if lard is in the doghouse? It’s not our business.

Yeah but I do know you’re not acting here.

holy ****. This is none of your business. It is a private matter between adults and between a coach and player

Stop hyperventilating. There's nothing private and secretive about wanting to know whether your key players are actually going to play.

 

[fsanford]

They beat Drake. They led against KSU in the 3rd quarter. Tough to compare those to be down double digits for 35.5 minutes of a basketball game.

they beat Drake by what a field goal, the game was in doubt in the 4th quarter
They were a 41 point favorite.. FCS non-scholarship Drake


Beating a lowly team does not necessarily mean they competed.

 

[NoCreativity]

Name one Big 12 coach that is worse than Prohm on gamedays?

He is 10th out of 10. He may recruit like a top tier coach and runs a clean program, but when it comes to the 40 minutes that actually matter, he is routinely beat.

In every Big 12 game he looks like the Beta against the opposing coach. I dont want him turning into Fran, but ffs if your players are sucking lay into them a little bit, if the refs arent doing there job lay into them.

Last night he just stood there with his arms crossed completely dumbfounded why a team that cant shoot was getting blown out with an offensive game plan of chucking up 3's and off balance floaters in the lane.

JFC Prohm, you've had a decent amount of success here and have beaten some of the top coaches in college basketball, stop acting like a 1st year grad assistant.

 

[larrysarmy]

In his defense he had a MONSTER block on Garza and was one of the only guards fighting over screens instead of under and running hard. Nixon was bad on offense and went under screens, and Bolton... Just wow.

I hope that jumps starts him. He’s got some talent, junior, big 12 body, nice jumper...just needs consistency at practice and games.

 

[CyGuy5]

I think he is running out of time. Prohm is a great recruiter, and a good guy, but he’s a terrible in game coach. It is completely unacceptable to have the record that Prohm’s teams do at home, and we should never get blasted by a bad program in Iowa.

 

[CycoCyclone]

I have seen nothing out of CSP that tells me he can out coach anyone. He is a pretty good recruiter and if he has a lot of talent, can win games but I have rarely seen ISU play above talent expectations since his hiring. Game adjustments never seem to be made and our offense seems to suffer when the primary gameplan is challenged which harkens back to adjustments and Prohms inability to capitalize on opposing weaknesses and deviate from specific game plans.

In bounds plays, does he have any?

 

[Statefan10]

Jamie will not fire Prohm unless there is a clear upgrade on the market that he thinks we have a legitimate shot at.

Anybody know of anyone out there that would be a good fit?

In three years, Georges Niang..