@FinalFourCy how is this optimistic? NWB's career scoring average was what? probably 7 or so. He averaged 9 points as a Senior. Haliburton averaged 7 as a Freshman.
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@FinalFourCy how is this optimistic? NWB's career scoring average was what? probably 7 or so. He averaged 9 points as a Senior. Haliburton averaged 7 as a Freshman.
Some further context on that defense efficiency rating...
Here is the chart of the year.
Each bubble/shape is a game. Green are wins, red are loses. What a surprise -- when you play bad defense, you are way more likely to lose a game.
I know you cannot do this in reality, but we really had five "bad" games...
-- @ Iowa
-- TCU
-- Baylor
-- @ Texas
-- @ WVU
...where the team "lost coherence" on defense. We all remember the agony.
Drop those games from 110+ to more the season average, and we end up with a defensive efficiency of 93.7 (assuming you drop each by 20 points per 100 per game).
That would have been good for #27 in the country -- tied with Texas.
I am mostly just horsing around with numbers here. I guess you can make two points about it, though, one that "helps" the narrative, and the other that "hurts" it...
If the team can maintain team and defensive coherence throughout the season, like it did not last season, then the defense should overall improve. The defense last year was good on most days, but shot itself in the foot in February. Be consistent, and it is better.
Oh, so the defense was good last year? Do you think the guys we have coming in, with less size and experience, are going to be better defenders somehow? We lost some great athletes with some long arms. Or will adding more of a rebounding prowess generate enough possessions for the offense and/or deny them to the other side to make up for it?
I absolutely think there is no way we are going to match our half-court efficiency from last year. Shayok was too good at it. We are going to have to make it up in pieces elsewhere throughout the game -- more full-court running, better defense, more steals, fewer turnovers, more rebounds for us, fewer for them, all adding up to having more possessions for us/fewer possessions for them, even if we are not as good in individual possessions as last year.
I remember TH running the pick and roll early in the season. Maui maybe? He had a bit more change of pace than Babb and made some nice passes to the rolling big man. He was able to get into the lane and then used patience to draw the defense before making a pass.
IMO if people are expecting Tyrese to be a 15+ppg scorer next year that is unrealistic and not necessary. For me assists are critical for TH- I expect 6-7apg.
The key to next years offense is getting the cheap points from fast breaks, offensive rebounds, out of bound plays
Roster scoring balance will play a big part in our having a decent offense next year. The below scoring breakout would get us to 77ppg, which is about our Big12 scoring average in 2016/17.
Nixon 14ppg
Jacobson 13ppg
Tfr Guard 12ppg
Halliburton 10ppg
Young 10ppg
Conditt 8ppg
Bench 2 6ppg
Bench 3 4ppg
The key to next years offense is getting the cheap points from fast breaks, offensive rebounds, out of bound plays
Roster scoring balance will play a big part in our having a decent offense next year. The below scoring breakout would get us to 77ppg, which is about our Big12 scoring average in 2016/17.
Nixon 14ppg
Jacobson 13ppg
Tfr Guard 12ppg
Halliburton 10ppg
Young 10ppg
Conditt 8ppg
Bench 2 6ppg
Bench 3 4ppg
Good to hear, like I said, I couldn't remember it if he had,he just didn't get much run at PG . I just think that's what will decide who's really running the show. A dream scenario would be a guy with his size that had a couple spot up shooters to sit in the corners spotted up waiting for him to pass over top the defense and knock shots down.
I described a guy that can get into the lane and use a floater. Prohm has mentioned he has the shot in his arsenal, but hasn't used it that often. He hit a couple in the nonconference and had a couple rim out later in the season. I'm not saying he's going to be the most aggressive scorer on the team. Just more aggressive than he is. Something like 10-12 ppg instead of the 6.8 he averaged with a 10.1% usage rate last season. For reference, Babb's usage rate was 16.1%, Wigginton was 26.9%.
I noted that the biggest hole in his game is a jumper off the dribble. I'm not expecting that to come next season. Nixon might be our late shot clock guy.
He's always going to be a pass-first guy. My point was that his ability to get into the middle of the defense is going to be a change from what we've had the last two seasons, and it will be even more effective if he can be a bigger threat once he's in the lane. He's capable of creating a shot. I'm not saying he needs to turn into Wigginton, but he's capable of averaging 10+. The ball is going to be in his hands a lot next season.
Since the "Lard Transferring" thread is closed I will just post this in here.
I agree with you and what some others have mentioned to some extent - Prohm's O seems to be based on a PG that can run the pick & roll and create for himself and others - Monte and presumably Canaan & Payne would exemplify this (didn't watch them at Murray). Babb did a nice job as a PG but doesn't fit this apparent preference; Lindell fit pretty well, but, significantly, didn't handle the ball all that well. TH can certainly create for others, get in the lane, and has a good handle, but he needs to add the shot for himself. Seems a lot like Diante's growth at ISU, so we'll see how much can be "grown" in year 2.
Others have mentioned D - I see no reason why we can't be better on D next year. Those that have left were not great on D. Lard blocked shots but wasn't a position player, and our guards didn't keep the opponent guards in front of them well at all. Nixon is supposed to be great on D, which should be a good help. Having Conditt and/or Solo in much more should help as well. As far as the newcomers and growth in returnees, we shall see.
2) Rayjon Tucker, 6-5, 210, SG, Little Rock
Stats: 20.3 ppg, 6.7 rpg, 41% 3-pointers
Scout’s take: “Very, very athletic. Can shoot. Has some ball skills. Freak athlete.”
Schools: West Virginia (visited), Auburn (4-19), Memphis (4-25), North Carolina, South Carolina, Iowa State, Kansas, Arkansas
19) Camron Justice, 6-3, 180, SG, IUPUI
Stats: 18.6 ppg, 3.2 rpg, 35% 3-pointers
Scout’s take: “Skilled and crafty veteran guard who is a confident and aggressive scorer. Has some combo ability, but is most effective playing off the ball. Has deep range.”
Schools: Western Kentucky, Iowa State, Virginia Tech, Michigan, Northwestern, Marshall, Colorado State, Utah State, Tulane, SMU, EKU, Illinois State
42) Edric Dennis, 6-0, 190, G, UT Arlington
Stats: 14.3 ppg, 4.5 rpg
Scout’s take: “Competitive, resilient. Hired gunner. Can get hot quick.”
Schools: Iowa State, Alabama, Baylor, TCU, Kansas State, Utah State, SMU, Georgia Tech, Xavier
8) Caleb Daniels, 6-4, 205, SG, Soph., Tulane
Stats: 16.9 ppg, 5.3 rpg, 3.3 apg
Scout’s take: “Physically strong, athletic wing. Shoots with NBA range, excellent downhill player who is extremely competitive. NBA potential. Effective in post area. Matchup problem.”
Schools: Ohio State, Villanova, Texas Tech, Baylor, Xavier, Georgia Tech, TCU, Iowa State, Minnesota, Oklahoma, Texas A&M, Nevada, Seton Hall, New Mexico
Kid has gone up levels every year
Freshman - Juco
Sophomore - Jackson State
Rs Soph - UT Arlington
RS Junior - UT Arlington
RS Senior - TBD
He likes to shoot the 3 albeit not very well, 121-384
5) Admon Gilder, 6-4, 200, G, Texas A&M
Stats: 12.3 ppg, 4.1 rpg, 40% 3-pointers
Scout’s take: “Big-time kid, relentless work ethic. He was one of the best defensive players in the SEC over the last three seasons and has already scored over 1,000 points in his career.”
Schools: N/A
CW linked Gilder to ISU a could weeks ago. Idk if that's still happening but we're interested.
I would be happy if we got any one of those 5 grad transfers.
Will be highly sought after as a sit 1 play 2
I know I'm being optimistic here but landing any two of the three available 2019 recruits (Wheeler, Nadolny and Grill) plus a grad transfer like Tucker, Justice or Gilder and that would be a great spring for ISU.
