Was Iowa State one of the 15 best teams at the time when the game was played?
I guess Iowa's collapse will start in March this year...
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ISU wasn’t even a top 40 team when they played. You deserve credit for beating Michigan but it’s still just a home game
Noone is arguing head to head is all that matters, its just one of several factors, some of which Iowa has an advantage over Iowa State.
Head to head - Iowa won big. Yes it was a home game, but Carver aint worth 14 points. Its always half empty and dead quiet, so its barely an advantage, right guys?
Bad losses - Iowa's worse loss is to #46 Minnesota (I'm using Kenpom for everything for convenience) on the road and all other losses are to teams in the top 11. ISU lost at home to 41 TCU and neutral court to #87 Arizona (yikes).
Record vs SOS - Iowa has a 20-5 record vs the #30 SOS, ISU has a 19-6 record vs a worse schedule (42nd).
ISU has more big wins (vs elite competition) and much better road wins.
Honestly, our resumes are pretty even. ISU seems to have a higher ceiling but a higher chance of laying an egg vs mediocre competition. Iowa has found a way to not lose to mediocre teams, but has looked overmatched vs elite teams.
I think both could do well in the tournament if they play at the levels each fanbase knows they are capable of. I think ISU has a better chance of making a real deep run because they can beat elite teams. Hard to see Iowa making the deep run with how they played vs Purdue and Sparty.
Actually, if you knew the process, you’d know that they take into consideration players that didn’t play in certain games when evaluating wins and losses. You’re welcome.
And ironically the Big 12 has been hurt the most by NET and the B1G has benefited the most from it. Pretty impressive for Iowa State yo be 15 spots higher than Iowa!
Arizona is irrelevant. We had 4 players out and it was in mid November when we were heavily relying on new Freshman. Using TCU is fair. They laid an egg there no question.
Why is Iowa State ranked significantly higher in NET, BPI, and KenPom? Your rant makes no sense...
I think you have a valid point, but from a resume standpoint you don't get to throw out the game. But ya ISU has definitely improved a lot from that point in the season. I think they might end up a 4 seed but they might be playing at the level of a 2 seed.
You should read their methodology or ask them if you want to know that. Beats me why Iowa keeps winning and dropping in the rankings, I'm just enjoying the ride.
The committee will absolutely take the missing players into account and are on the record stating that those things are factored in. This is nothing new.
Not really. I don't believe half the **** I say. Which half is open to your interpretation, but I'm not full on dumbass.
From a resume standpoint no. It will still be factored though on who we were missing. But I will dismiss the Arizona loss as a reason that Iowa State could lay in egg in March. That loss was so long ago and we had too many freshman playing and key players out. I don’t think our team was very good in November and most of December in all honesty.
But it will be considered a quad 1, Top 20 win for Iowa as long as ISU doesn't collapse.
Thank you.
Committee will not care, it will be a Quad 1 win come Selection Sunday.
Yes of course, but that’s not the context that illicited my response.
The Michigan was much more an impressive win, due to the caliber of the team played WHEN they played them. The original statement is misleading because at the time ISU wasn’t one of the best 15 (probably not even 40). Of course still qualifies as a Q1 win...
I’m watching the WVU game tonight. They are a fundamentally bad team that can’t shoot and turns the ball over way too much.
Iowa would be able to beat them by two points on a three-quarter court, one-handed heave that hits the top of the backboard before dropping through the bucket.
89-87 Iowa over WVU.
Iowa would be able to beat them by two points on a three-quarter court, one-handed heave that hits the top of the backboard before dropping through the bucket.
89-87 Iowa over WVU.
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