John Deere as corporate punching bag

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Only tangentially related, but one thing I'll point out is if your job can be done from home, then it can be done from India.

I just think this is way overblown. If a job can be done in India, they’ll move it there whether I’m sitting in the office or my house. This is about the bottom line, nothing more.
 

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Nerd.

Ha, thats awesome. I brushed mine up lastnight for the first time in a decade and man is it out of touch now. Brutal.

Should be an AI app to do that and update resumes, deleting the buzzwords that were in vogue 10 years ago and replacing them with the new corporate de jour speak of 2024.
 
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I've worked for those little guys. They pay a fraction of what the big guys pay and offer a quarter of the benefits because its all they can afford.

I get your point but its not that simple.

I am glad it worked out for you, don't get me wrong. But in my field. Those little guys are dying faster than the big guys are laying people off.

You couldn't be more wrong. The company I work for is far from a little guy, take a few seconds to think about privately held companies based in Iowa or manufacture in Iowa. Multi billion dollar companies, family owned. Easily the best companies pay & benefit wise out there. Publicly held companies are not at all the highest paying. That's just flat out wrong.
 

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That sounds amazing on paper until you look at the budget. Typically the smaller company is going to have a lower salary and fewer benefits. People typically are just scraping by as it is. Leaving money or benefits on the table isn't an option.

Those are often the ones that run under the radar for protections like FMLA. So certain groups can get really screwed then. See small companies laying off pregnant women all. the. time.
 
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Should be an AI app to do that and update resumes, deleting the buzzwords that were in vogue 10 years ago and replacing them with the new corporate de jour speak of 2024.
No doubt there is. I should have pursued it. Curious what this particular place is looking for exactly, so I could work that edge a bit.
 

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You couldn't be more wrong. The company I work for is far from a little guy, take a few seconds to think about privately held companies based in Iowa or manufacture in Iowa. Multi billion dollar companies, family owned. Easily the best companies pay & benefit wise out there. Publicly held companies are not at all the highest paying. That's just flat out wrong.
Good for you, but speaking from firsthand experience, this isn't always the case.
 
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You couldn't be more wrong. The company I work for is far from a little guy, take a few seconds to think about privately held companies based in Iowa or manufacture in Iowa. Multi billion dollar companies, family owned. Easily the best companies pay & benefit wise out there. Publicly held companies are not at all the highest paying. That's just flat out wrong.
You are talking the exception and not the rule.

Source: work in public accounting
 

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I don't mind tariffs against China, because the Chinese don't play fair. They don't play by the same rules as the rest of the global market. The problem is that our government often tries to do something to help American business and doesn't fully understand the situation so they end up making things worse.
On paper, tariffs against China are good. But often it hits the customer stateside. Sure we hire a US based craft labor team to weld that widget for us, but the cost of that tariff on the metal inevitably gets baked into material costs on our invoice.

Or we’ve pushed off major projects quarter by quarter in the name of short term gains until we get a catastrophic failure and the only place to buy that OEM doohickey is at a plant in China. And the SME that retired last year’s headcount hasn’t been backfilled.

I’m typing this out on an iPhone made in China that would cost 10x to build here than over there. I don’t know the answer, but there has to be a better way forward for American business.
 
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Send me a DM if you are affected by recent layoffs. I have a W2 position open today. All I ask is that you show up on time, can pass a drug test, and can comfortably climb a ladder. Sometimes there are early days as well (6 AM when things break)

W2 salary
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Has to live in within a reasonable commute of West Des Moines
 

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Don't disagree. I'm very loyal because my philosophy is I work incredibly hard to learn and become a wide and deep expert on as much as possible, and I feel I can both contribute the most and feel the most reward from using that knowledge over the years.

I worked at Marsh (60K employees) for 9 years (only moved because I could double my pay and was getting tired of the extreme greed) and I've been where I'm at now for 9.5 years (150ish employees) and have no reason or desire to leave. I'm the go-to expert on anything IT or business because I was one of the leaders that in my first year helped design and direct the building of a whole new admin system (claims, eligibility, billing). We're also a "not for profit" that gives the majority of all revenue back to the people of Iowa in various ways so there isn't "greed".
You were building a policy admin system from scratch???? I thought that would never happen again.
 

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Send me a DM if you are affected by recent layoffs. I have a W2 position open today. All I ask is that you show up on time, can pass a drug test, and can comfortably climb a ladder. Sometimes there are early days as well (6 AM when things break)

W2 salary
401K match
company vehicle
Has to live in within a reasonable commute of West Des Moines
Do you test for weed? Asking for a friend.
 

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This all comes down to not working for publicly traded companies. Work for family owned, its that simple. If a publicly traded company offers you a better position...turn it down. I work for a privately held company that competes in some of JD's markets and I would never in a million years work for JD, and I have been lured to work there multiple times. Not. Gonna. Happen.

There ARE good companies out there but you won't find them in your portfolio.

There are good and bad, both big and small.

There's LOTS of bad small, privately held companies too.
 
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I've worked for those little guys. They pay a fraction of what the big guys pay and offer a quarter of the benefits because its all they can afford.

I get your point but its not that simple.

I am glad it worked out for you, don't get me wrong. But in my field. Those little guys are dying faster than the big guys are laying people off.

I think it depends on the industry. I know of some accountants working at small, regional firms that make wild money.

In my industry though, you’re completely correct.
 
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You couldn't be more wrong. The company I work for is far from a little guy, take a few seconds to think about privately held companies based in Iowa or manufacture in Iowa. Multi billion dollar companies, family owned. Easily the best companies pay & benefit wise out there. Publicly held companies are not at all the highest paying. That's just flat out wrong.
Partially agree - depends GREATLY on the industry.

We're in a pricey space, so our folks get paid well. But there's other small biz that grind it out to make a nickel mowing grass and plowing snow, and they just can't pay people much.

edit - Dopey beat me to it.
 
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On paper, tariffs against China are good. But often it hits the customer stateside. Sure we hire a US based craft labor team to weld that widget for us, but the cost of that tariff on the metal inevitably gets baked into material costs on our invoice.

Or we’ve pushed off major projects quarter by quarter in the name of short term gains until we get a catastrophic failure and the only place to buy that OEM doohickey is at a plant in China. And the SME that retired last year’s headcount hasn’t been backfilled.

I’m typing this out on an iPhone made in China that would cost 10x to build here than over there. I don’t know the answer, but there has to be a better way forward for American business.
Tariffs are never a good idea, no matter which country imposes them, it just drives up the price for those back home when they purchase the product. This idea by Trump that he is going to tariff everyone, and those countries are not going to do the same to our goods is beyond stupid.

There are two ways to fix this problem, 1st would be to use the tax code to make it practical for US companies to make the product here in the US as opposed to overseas, by charging the company at a higher tax rate to bring the product back into the country to sell.

The 2nd which will never happen is that US companies and more important the stockholders of those companies will have to learn to accept less in profits each year. Move away from the Reagan trickle down economy model that is based on rewarding the investment class over the worker. But it will never happen.
 

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Not exactly sure.
Should be an AI app to do that and update resumes, deleting the buzzwords that were in vogue 10 years ago and replacing them with the new corporate de jour speak of 2024.
Good idea. Then the AI systems that determine who is the top five will trip all over your AI produced resume.
 
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Partially agree - depends GREATLY on the industry.

We're in a pricey space, so our folks get paid well. But there's other small biz that grind it out to make a nickel mowing grass and plowing snow, and they just can't pay people much.

edit - Dopey beat me to it.
Are there publicly traded companies that pay better for mowing grass and snow plowing? Doesn’t seem like a good comparison.
 

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I think it depends on the industry. I know of some accountants working at small, regional firms that make wild money.

In my industry though, you’re completely correct.
Thats a good point. I don't really follow the world of accountants. I work in the hard sciences (Degree in Microbiology) so I stick mostly to Pharma, Consumer Care etc.

There are good jobs out there at little guys in those industries. But I remember working for a CC company, they wouldn't even get me to $40k/yr. That was too much for them. Moved to a fortune 500 company and doubled my salary overnight.
 

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