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Similar to the added cost and time of commuting, I'm adding this here as a friendly reminder that only get an MBA if your employer pays for it, or if you want a job that requires it, and your current resume is being denied because of education level...
As someone who got their MBA for free from former employer, can't agree more.

I know a bunch of people I worked with that went and got an MBA just because they thought that was the way to get promoted. Very much the "earned my MBA badge!" But they had no real idea what they wanted to do with it. Luckily for them, former employer used to pay unlimited for people education. But abuse of the system led to a budget limit on it - no more free lunch lol.

I will say, mine was useful as I got more into a P&L responsible role. And now, co-owning a small biz, I have to say it is quite helpful. Am I great at accounting, finance, operations, et al? No not really. But I know a little about it all, and that helps quite a bit.
 

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Interest rates also working against machinery sales right now.
Lots of reasons behind the ag market conditions we're seeing right now. Commodity prices are low with no rebound in sight for the next couple years along with interest rates being where they are. There is also a lot of used machinery sitting at dealers right now they're trying to move.

I don't think anybody was surprised about cuts to production employees, that's just life in manufacturing unfortunately. This is the first significant cut to the white collar staff at Deere since the 80's. Typically they would offer buyouts rather than an outright layoff so this is new behavior out of leadership nobody who's working today has been around to see before.
 

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100% this. If I could teach my 25 year old self one lesson, that would be it. I spent more than a decade being loyal to an employer, and it cost me. They were a good employer, too. They treated employees well and I got some great experience. I have nothing bad to say about them. I had no intention of ever leaving, until 4 years ago I was contacted by a recruiter. I wasn't interested, until she started throwing around numbers, and I realized that loyalty is a wonderful thing, but save it for your friends and family and sports teams, not your employer. Even a good one won't compensate you better than a new position at a new company will. That's the best way to play the game.

Now, my thought is to stay at a place for a max of 3 years. Give them the best work I can in that time, and then parlay it to a better position. Just keep moving forward. There's no reason to be sentimental about it. It's a mercenary world. Pretending that it's not will only hurt you.

Recruiters can also help you get a better salary at your current job though you often need a real job offer from a different company. I got a good salary bump doing that, but I also went through hell working a lot of late nights to get there. Not sure why companies make it so hard to compensate people what they are worth given the cost of replacement, but I also don't understand RTO either...
 

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Pooping at work is really the only way I feel like I'm actually taking advantage of management.

That’s a great feeling, until they remind you of what they think about you based on the quality of toilet paper they stock in the bathroom.
 

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That’s a great feeling, until they remind you of what they think about you based on the quality of toilet paper they stock in the bathroom.
I just use 4x as much as I would at home. Plus I feel like that John Wayne TP they give us scrubs the back door a little better.
 
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Recruiters can also help you get a better salary at your current job though you often need a real job offer from a different company. I got a good salary bump doing that, but I also went through hell working a lot of late nights to get there. Not sure why companies make it so hard to compensate people what they are worth given the cost of replacement, but I also don't understand RTO either...

Just make sure you know you are wanted before playing the "I'm leaving unless you match this offer" card.

Years ago at a different employer, had a sales guy leave and the owner begged him to stay, offered him money, title, whatever. But he was leaving to start his own biz so nothing could keep him.

Another guy in the warehouse watched this and thought "well I can get myself a raise" and went in saying he was going with the first guy (out of state) unless boss matched the salary. He didn't really want to leave though, had a couple kids in school, family in area, etc. Boss stood right up and shook his hand, wished him well, and walked him out the door. Funniest gd thing. Warehouse guy was kind of a tool, definitely held himself in the highest regard. So he moved out of state and was gone.
 
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Just make sure you know you are wanted before playing the "I'm leaving unless you match this offer" card.

Years ago at a different employer, had a sales guy leave and the owner begged him to stay, offered him money, title, whatever. But he was leaving to start his own biz so nothing could keep him.

Another guy in the warehouse watched this and thought "well I can get myself a raise" and went in saying he was going with the first guy (out of state) unless boss matched the salary. He didn't really want to leave though, had a couple kids in school, family in area, etc. Boss stood right up and shook his hand, wished him well, and walked him out the door. Funniest gd thing. Warehouse guy was kind of a tool, definitely held himself in the highest regard. So he moved out of state and was gone.

Very good point. It's basically going "All-In" in poker. You have to be prepared to lose. That was the mindset I took when I did this. I had prepped my resume and cover letter if things don't work out.
 
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Just make sure you know you are wanted before playing the "I'm leaving unless you match this offer" card.

Years ago at a different employer, had a sales guy leave and the owner begged him to stay, offered him money, title, whatever. But he was leaving to start his own biz so nothing could keep him.

Another guy in the warehouse watched this and thought "well I can get myself a raise" and went in saying he was going with the first guy (out of state) unless boss matched the salary. He didn't really want to leave though, had a couple kids in school, family in area, etc. Boss stood right up and shook his hand, wished him well, and walked him out the door. Funniest gd thing. Warehouse guy was kind of a tool, definitely held himself in the highest regard. So he moved out of state and was gone.

I had an employee try that move. Had the resignation letter out as soon as we started the conversation. I politely accepted the resignation and wished her the best.

She was shocked that I very quickly accepted and didn't try to keep her.

You wanna go? Go. Unless you are top tier I will help you pack.
 
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I could not more highly endorse working with a recruiter. At the end of the day, you can say no to their interview requests. My experience has been they have gotten me larger sign on bonuses and got me in front of executives that would not have happened if it wasn't for their personal connection to the company or leader.
 

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I could not more highly endorse working with a recruiter. At the end of the day, you can say no to their interview requests. My experience has been they have gotten me larger sign on bonuses and got me in front of executives that would not have happened if it wasn't for their personal connection to the company or leader.
challenge ive had with a recruiter is they want you to take the employers offer with as little as haggling as possible. they dont get paid unless you get hired. But yes, i agree with your overall point that they open doors otherwise not available
 
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I could not more highly endorse working with a recruiter. At the end of the day, you can say no to their interview requests. My experience has been they have gotten me larger sign on bonuses and got me in front of executives that would not have happened if it wasn't for their personal connection to the company or leader.
My wife’s position was eliminated at the beginning of the year after being with the company 20+ years. She is starting a new job next week because of a recruiter. No idea where resumes go to die when you apply for jobs now. You would think HR would at least respond back for VP level positions.