Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)

[loyalson4evatru]

so when are the next tv contracts up for SEC/Big 10?

curious when this "super conference" type setup finally happens that we all know will happen at some point.

i don't think teams get completely cut out of CFP but it will just be even more heavily weighted towards the largest / most profitable programs.

feels like some type of "tier 1, tier 2, tier 3" setup. top 25 tier 1. remainder of P5 teams tier 2. G5 teams tier 3.
tier 1 gets 8 playoff teams, tier 2 gets 3, tier 3 gets 1.

tier 1 plays 6 gms vs other tier 1 teams. 4 gms vs tier 2. 2 gms vs tier 3.
tier 2 plays 6 gms vs tier 2, 4 gms vs tier 1, 2 gms vs tier 3.
tier 3 plays 8 gms vs tier 3, 2 gms vs tier 1, 2 gms vs tier 2

fine i'll take over college football pay me $1M salary i'll handle any and all questions.

you can create a system that gives biggest $ makers their flowers, while at some time not completely neglecting the smaller schools. fine give bigger schools more seats at the table for CFP, i have no issue with that.

tier 1 games get all the prime time slots, networks can figure that part out and it'll have to be shared partnerships. but there's plenty of $ to go around and tier 2 teams still would be on main networks most the time and same as now worse case is ESPN + or whatever.

the ultimate debating topic would be who gets in tier 1?

pretty easy to create a very basic ranking system based off athletic dept revenue, attendance/tv viewership, wins/losses. weight it out 25% + 25% + 50% or something. 1/4 revenue 1/4 popularity 1/2 team success. makes winning still matter but if one of most profitable and popular brands you'll always be tier 1. it'd get heated for those final spots of course but how fun would that be? each year there's teams jumping from tier 2 to tier 1. AD's / Coaches urging their fans to sell out their last few games if they're right on that tier 1 bubble.

i think we could all rattle off the top 20ish teams that would for sure be tier 1. curious who rounds out your top 25. i think we can all admit we'd start in tier 2. i think Iowa would be one of teams on the bubble of tier 1.

would be much more enjoyable setup than whatever the F is happening now.

 

[mctallerton]

One thing CW has mentioned in the past and I agree with is the shift to streaming platforms in the future. I am hoping that a positive of the pac12 media rights negotiations is to show apple and Amazon that they need to be more competitive in the future if they want to have a seat at the table.

 

[SolterraCyclone]

I encourage everyone to listen to the most recent Until Saturday podcast, especially the last half and their discussion on the (inevitable?) Super League.

It’s an Athletic podcast, but these guys did a great job of laying out the significant drawbacks a Super League will cost, and the value of the smaller brands. I thought Ari’s mea culpa on his TCU column after they got destroyed by Georgia was really refreshing and insightful.

 

[HoopsTournament]

Or my iPhone.

Woah. How does that work?

 

[sunset]

Does CF have a location of links to conference members' message boards (preferably ones which are not paid access and decent activity)? It would be nice to read what the others are talking about this subject, without having threads blocked as I'm not a paying/registered member.

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[RoseClone]

 

[Jer]

Hey, the ones with rice crisps in them sell themselves.

 

[JM4CY]

Stewie out there finding things to b*tch about. Lol

 

[Jer]

Stewie out there finding things to b*tch about. Lol

Somebody tell Stewie we also landed a man on the moon.

 

[CloniesForLife]

Stewie out there finding things to b*tch about. Lol

I mean he's right about that one.

 

[JM4CY]

I mean he's right about that one.

I think it’s funny. The biggest realignment story happens in years which involves the conference he covers and he writes a story about realignment that happened over a decade ago on the other side of the US that is news to absolutely no one who follows college athletics at all.

 

[Sigmapolis]

Has there any news about what's going to happen with the Pac-thetic Four?

(Cal, Stanford, Oregon State, and Washington State.)

 

[Allikat]

President Crow and AD Ray Anderson can't even get a victory lap interview correct.

1)They didn't even call a press conference, they answered some improptu questions against what appeared to be a storage shed of sorts by the practice field. From a handful of homer reporters lobbing softballs that would make the CR Gazette blush.

2)Crow was still talking up the Apple deal, as if he actually wanted to take it. He never actually said anything negative about the deal, instead we got his boomer hand movements trying to explain to us how technology works lol.

3)Crow admitted he had never personally even spoken to the Big 12 until 10:30am Friday when Oregon and Washington didn't show up to their emergency President's meeting. He explicitly claims He and Anderson did not make the decision to leave until they got stood up "2 schools". (Obviously UO and UW)

4) AD Ray Anderson said he will NOT being going to Morgantown. He will assign that to his deputy AD. Weird comment. Crow and Anderson looked at each other and laughed after he said it.

5)Anderson and Crow only took offense to any suggestion they didn't do enough to save the Pac12??? Crow said they were Pac12 stalwarts that fought for pac12 until the last ditch. Also a weird flex and pretty tone deaf to the fact that everyone and I do mean everyone saw the writing on the wall well before Friday morning.

6)Crow mentioned one time he is an ISU grad who threw javelin in Ames. Didn't feel the need to say anything positive about his ISU connection other than the passing mention that ISU was graced with his presence years ago .

Paraphrasing but he noted that there was no chance that AZ and ASU were going to be separated.

Hmm, maybe he missed that Arizona had already applied for and been accepted the day before he got stood up in his last-ditch effort to save the PAC.

My guess is Robbins read the room and knew that ORWA were gone. Crow thought he had solidarity. What he had was a friend ready to give him a hanky.

 

[Allikat]

President Crow and AD Ray Anderson can't even get a victory lap interview correct.

1)They didn't even call a press conference, they answered some improptu questions against what appeared to be a storage shed of sorts by the practice field. From a handful of homer reporters lobbing softballs that would make the CR Gazette blush.

2)Crow was still talking up the Apple deal, as if he actually wanted to take it. He never actually said anything negative about the deal, instead we got his boomer hand movements trying to explain to us how technology works lol.

3)Crow admitted he had never personally even spoken to the Big 12 until 10:30am Friday when Oregon and Washington didn't show up to their emergency President's meeting. He explicitly claims He and Anderson did not make the decision to leave until they got stood up "2 schools". (Obviously UO and UW)

4) AD Ray Anderson said he will NOT being going to Morgantown. He will assign that to his deputy AD. Weird comment. Crow and Anderson looked at each other and laughed after he said it.

5)Anderson and Crow only took offense to any suggestion they didn't do enough to save the Pac12??? Crow said they were Pac12 stalwarts that fought for pac12 until the last ditch. Also a weird flex and pretty tone deaf to the fact that everyone and I do mean everyone saw the writing on the wall well before Friday morning.

6)Crow mentioned one time he is an ISU grad who threw javelin in Ames. Didn't feel the need to say anything positive about his ISU connection other than the passing mention that ISU was graced with his presence years ago .

 

[CascadeClone]

so when are the next tv contracts up for SEC/Big 10?

curious when this "super conference" type setup finally happens that we all know will happen at some point.

i don't think teams get completely cut out of CFP but it will just be even more heavily weighted towards the largest / most profitable programs.

feels like some type of "tier 1, tier 2, tier 3" setup. top 25 tier 1. remainder of P5 teams tier 2. G5 teams tier 3.
tier 1 gets 8 playoff teams, tier 2 gets 3, tier 3 gets 1.

tier 1 plays 6 gms vs other tier 1 teams. 4 gms vs tier 2. 2 gms vs tier 3.
tier 2 plays 6 gms vs tier 2, 4 gms vs tier 1, 2 gms vs tier 3.
tier 3 plays 8 gms vs tier 3, 2 gms vs tier 1, 2 gms vs tier 2

fine i'll take over college football pay me $1M salary i'll handle any and all questions.

you can create a system that gives biggest $ makers their flowers, while at some time not completely neglecting the smaller schools. fine give bigger schools more seats at the table for CFP, i have no issue with that.

tier 1 games get all the prime time slots, networks can figure that part out and it'll have to be shared partnerships. but there's plenty of $ to go around and tier 2 teams still would be on main networks most the time and same as now worse case is ESPN + or whatever.

the ultimate debating topic would be who gets in tier 1?

i think we could all rattle off the top 20ish teams that would for sure be tier 1. curious who rounds out your top 25. i think we can all admit we'd start in tier 2. i think Iowa would be one of teams on the bubble of tier 1.

would be much more enjoyable setup than whatever the F is happening now.

I would doubt T2 and T3 get into the "big boy" playoffs. Each would have their own probably. It would look a lot like UK Soccer with a Premier League, then EFL Champ, EFL 1, EFL2, etc. Just without relegation.

The top 20 are pretty easy, as you say:
OSU,MICH,BAMA,ND,LSU,GA,PSU,TEX,AUB,OK,FLA,CLEM,TAMU,TENN,FSU,USC,WASH,ORE,UCLA,MIA

(Note that all but 4 of these are now consolidated into the B1G and SEC - what a coincidence!)

I think 20 is actually about the right number for media slots and they would stop right there, rather than pull in more. There's only 7 or 8 really prime timeslots on the networks as it is. So 10 games a week (8 or 9 with byes) might be exactly what they want. Plus look at the potential next 4 teams listed below and tell me they belong with the above - not really.

If they did go to 24 or more, then probably it would come down to brand, population/tv market, recent performance, and maybe geography. Those are super-arguable. The next 15 to pick from are probably:
Wisky, Neb, MSU, Arkansas, VT, Iowa, Utah/BYU, Ole Miss, SCar, Texas Tech, Ok St, UNC, Mizzou, Minny.
Hard to pick the best 4 or 8 from that list - not a lot of big differentiators. Another reason I think they'd stop at 20.

All that said... if they took those 20 teams out, and left the other 50ish plus the G5s to be just "college football" again - I would love that league and would happily follow it and not the Premier.

 

[Nelcyn]

We are not going after SDSU and Oregon State? Didn't read through all the messages.

 

[CascadeClone]

I mean he's right about that one.

Guy needed a win so he found a gimmie.

 

[JM4CY]

We are not going after SDSU and Oregon State? Didn't read through all the messages.

I think Oregon st floated that so they could test the waters or something. It ain’t happening.

 

[WooBadger18]

I mean he's right about that one.

I don’t think he is. Let’s not pretend this was about anything other than money. And for that it’s been incredibly successful. Both parties got exactly what they wanted out of the deal which was a shitload of money.

I hate the big 10 did it; I wish they hadn’t done it, but that was a wildly successful move. If the big 12 brought in a team that increased tv revenue 400% we wouldn’t be saying “oh that’s a terrible move.”

Edit: changed big 10 to big 12

 

[Cyclonepride]

Has there any news about what's going to happen with the Pac-thetic Four?

(Cal, Stanford, Oregon State, and Washington State.)

They have to try to swing a merger with the Mountain West under the PAC name to try to preserve their playoff spot? That's the only thing I can imagine.