Hy-Vee's weirdest business decision yet?

g4ce

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You are right, process foods kill and seed oils are very bad for you. But some clarification on carbs. Sweet potatoes, potatoes, oatmeal, fruit, black beans, rice, quinoa, chick peas, etc.. DO NOT KILL AND DO NOT MAKE YOU FAT. If you have type two diabetes or insulin resistance then to much fat is the issue, not carbs. The advice that a lot of type 2 diabetics get is to eat low carb. All that does is control the symptom and it suppresses insulin, which is not exactly a good idea. I won't go into extreme detail, but insulin is a vital hormone and not evil, to suppress it is not healthy long term. On top of that, eating low carb does not exercise the blood sugar metabolism, in other words it gets out of shape and lazy. Yes, you will walk around with a low A1C on low carb, but your insulin resistance will actually be a lot worse. If you were to take a glucose tolerance test, you would fail miserably.
So, what to do to actually correct the problem? First, the reason the blood sugar is high is because there is to many lipids in cells that wouldn't normally have a lot of them. You could be fit and still be insulin resistant if cells like muscle cells have too many lipids. What happens when you eat something is your pancreas will release the insulin to go grab the glucose molecule to drop it off to the cell. However, the cell tells the insulin and glucose to beat it, it won't let it in because there is already an energy source (lipids) in the cell, it won't let the glucose in. With nowhere to go, the blood sugar stays high. Sensing there is still glucose floating around, the pancreas releases more insulin. The lipids in the cell have to be lowered to make room for the glucose. So eating a low fat diet, that is high in whole food cards, allows the lipids to leave the cell and exercises and conditions the blood sugar metabolism to work correctly. Plus it is healthy. You still should eat healthy fats, but depending on how big you are it has to be limited to 30 to 40 grams per day. Of course exercise also helps with insulin resistance.
So while I agree with you that natural sugars won't kill you, too much of them is still a major problem with the standard american diet today. Almost everything people eat is chocked full of sugars whether highly processed or not. Not only are the amounts of sugar/carbohydrates terrible for a person but they also are not satiating and they are extremely addictive.

Why do you think fat is the issue? You sound like you have been educated on this topic but it is my understanding that insulin is released by your pancreas to control high blood glucose levels and in turn converts the glucose into fat stores. The continued bombardment of carbohydrates on the blood cells over years creates insulin resistance by the cells themselves. The insulin that the body produces quite literally cannot keep up with blood glucose levels and the glucose begins to be evacuated in the urine if left untreated. Which is T2 diabetes. When eating a low carbohydrate diet your metabolism is forced to burn ketones(fat) and not rely on the constant stream of carbohydrates to function. This allows for metabolic flexibility.

Very few people are proposing a zero carb lifestyle but merely low carb. The basis of our diets should be meat and vegetables. Add in fruits and other carbohydrates sparingly and you have a recipe for success.

I am genuinely curious why you think eating like humans ate for thousands of years is really the problem and not the cure?
 

MJ29

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So while I agree with you that natural sugars won't kill you, too much of them is still a major problem with the standard american diet today. Almost everything people eat is chocked full of sugars whether highly processed or not. Not only are the amounts of sugar/carbohydrates terrible for a person but they also are not satiating and they are extremely addictive.

Why do you think fat is the issue? You sound like you have been educated on this topic but it is my understanding that insulin is released by your pancreas to control high blood glucose levels and in turn converts the glucose into fat stores. The continued bombardment of carbohydrates on the blood cells over years creates insulin resistance by the cells themselves. The insulin that the body produces quite literally cannot keep up with blood glucose levels and the glucose begins to be evacuated in the urine if left untreated. Which is T2 diabetes. When eating a low carbohydrate diet your metabolism is forced to burn ketones(fat) and not rely on the constant stream of carbohydrates to function. This allows for metabolic flexibility.

Very few people are proposing a zero carb lifestyle but merely low carb. The basis of our diets should be meat and vegetables. Add in fruits and other carbohydrates sparingly and you have a recipe for success.

I am genuinely curious why you think eating like humans ate for thousands of years is really the problem and not the cure?

Unless you're out hunting your own meat (and processing it yourself) and gathering fruits and vegetables you grew yourself or can find in close proximity to your residence, you're not eating "like humans ate for thousands of years." This BS propaganda doesn't belong in this thread, but also drives me nuts.
 

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Have you been to Aldi in the past few years? It's much better than it used to be.

I went to the Aldi’s on Hickman and Alice’s Rd the last time I was in town. Felt like shopping at Super Valu in the 80’s but without the Shasta. And it was packed. And everything looked like it had been rummaged through like a garage sale. Didn’t even think the prices were that great.

If there was an Aldi within walking distance I would probably shop there for a quick stop but no ******* way am I going out of my way to go there.
 
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3TrueFans

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I went to the Aldi’s on Hickman and Alice’s Rd the last time I was in town. Felt like shopping at Super Valu in the 80’s but without the Shasta. And it was packed. And everything looked like it had been rummaged through like a garage sale. Didn’t even think the prices were that great.

If there was an Aldi within walking distance I would probably shop there for a quick stop but no ******* way am I going out of my way to go there.
What you think you live in Europe? Get in the F350 and drive there like a normal American.
 

somecyguy

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**** that.

Need me to pay a goddam browsing fee to get in the door? Don't trust me enough with your precious cart.

Sell your ****, generic food to somebody else.

I feel like you're getting irrationally upset over something you don't understand. It has nothing to do with you paying a "browsing fee" and is simply incentive to get people to bring their carts back inside. Aldi's is all about minimizing costs and if they don't need someone to go outside and gather carts during the day, not to mention the extra maintenance involved with carts sitting outside, then they can allocate those resources elsewhere.

Or it has nothing to do with the carts and you just irrationally hate Aldi's. Again, you do you.
 

Pat

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How do you know this?
Also curious as to whether this just speculation, but it can’t be great for them. They have to pay an employee to do my shopping, check me out, and bag my groceries; if I’m in the store, I’m responsible for all of those things.

After going all-in on eliminating employees and customer service, and remodeling stores with impulse-buy garbage, it is kind of funny to watch the whole thing (predictably) backfire.
 

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