I think you’re assuming what I’m saying. I am not saying they literally sit around all day talking about it. But when politics get brought up they bash welfare taking people. It’s hypocritical. Bottom line.
Why are Farmers never happy?
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Farmers could certainly do a better job of soil conservation and nitrogen runoff. Vast majority of nitrogen in the water comes from farms. That's a scientific fact.
There is a point to royalcy on the lawn runoff too though. We care about our lawns wayyy too much in this country and heavy rains drive nitrogen runoff into storm sewers. I am remembering a thread on here where someone was putting fertilizer on their lawn 4 times a year. If you are one of those people you would be extremely hypocritical to criticize farmers as they use very calculated rates. Precision agriculture with soil testing is improving excess use somewhat. Most people applying on their lawn have no idea what thier soil profile is.
There is a point to royalcy on the lawn runoff too though. We care about our lawns wayyy too much in this country and heavy rains drive nitrogen runoff into storm sewers. I am remembering a thread on here where someone was putting fertilizer on their lawn 4 times a year. If you are one of those people you would be extremely hypocritical to criticize farmers as they use very calculated rates. Precision agriculture with soil testing is improving excess use somewhat. Most people applying on their lawn have no idea what thier soil profile is.
My grand father had to sell the farm in the 60's. My father still cries about it. I'm pretty detached from it but growing up in Iowa, if you pay attention anyone can learn a little about farming.
Siap, but I have an honest question. I have a lot of respect for farmers. I do wonder though. Almost all of the farmers around me always have newer vehicles, campers, remodeled houses, nice boats, a lake house, etc.... Is farming that lucrative? Are they all in massive debt, or is this all being written off? I have no idea. A lot of respect for most farmers, but I don't think I've ever felt bad or sorry for them.
My fathers uncle who’s a hog farmer had to buy a brand new truck last year so he could get a write off.
It really seems like in WI I see more cows bunched up in very small areas that look like would be higher concentrations of runoff vs if it were spread out over a large pasture.
FIFY.
I respect farmers and what they do, but this whole “feed the world” narrative is a bit too altruistic for me. They’re in it to maximize profit just like any business.
Thanks @alarson, I thought you might be slipping I hadn't seen you dumb one of my posts in a while.
Calls the cave a cesspool.
Brings the cesspool to a thread that's been decent so far.
This is 100% correct. The narrative is a paid for talking point from dumb@ss organizations like Farm Bureau.
Technology advances killed the small farmer. My great-great grandpa farmed and made a living on 320 acres before tractors were around. This was a large farm in its day. It took him 2+ months to plant that land and now I can plant that 320 acres in a single day now. Should I get to make the same living that he made with my 1 day of work vs his 60?
Hit so hard it got deleted, shame.
Sorry if I don't think this is a thread that would deserve "libtard."
Personally, I'm learning some things, maybe others are too.
I hope others are courteous and not use words on the other end of the spectrum as well.
And this is my issue. When you then have any question or concern around decisions they make - as a business - they shroud themselves in the cloak of "can't criticize us, we feed you, you couldn't do our job for a minute" crap. Want the praise but no questions, especially if you are not born and raised in it. And even then. It's a lot of the same voices in the industry and the insularity of it reinforces them. Diversity of perspective would be a good thing but it's seen as a threat and attacked.
