Big XII to add schools within days?

[WhoISthis]

You seriously think there's any doubt that when the B1G re-ups in a few years Iowa will make more?

You asked Iowa football revenue, not how much Ohio St football will subsidize Iowa via conference tv payments.

I think KU will be in either the SEC or Big, so likely yes.

When conferences figure out how to keep that HUGE tournament money, KU basketball surpasses Iowa football

 

[Gonzo]

You asked Iowa football revenue, not how much Ohio St football will subsidize Iowa via conference tv payments.

I think KU will be in either the SEC or Big, so likely yes.

When conferences figure out how to keep that HUGE tournament money, KU basketball surpasses Iowa football

Well when the B1G re-ups in a few years Iowa will get just as much of a media payout as Ohio St. and there's no doubt it'll be more than they're making now. Not really speculation. And you're saying that sometime down the road when conferences completely change payout structure of NCAA MBB tournament, KU will surpass Iowa. But who the hell knows when or if that will actually happen, so again, complete speculation. As is suggesting KU will be in the B1G in a few years.

 

[WhoISthis]

From the start there were 5 “good” additions.

BYU, Cincinnati, Houston, UCF, and Memphis.

Boise is an OK 6th to get all 5, and they have a great G5 history including beating good P5 teams in bowl games.

Getting to the P5 level with increased pay also helps them. Obviously they face tougher opponents every week as well though.

You think those two add revenue/team- they pull in more than $20-$25 million?

There is no need to add them now. Wait to see if better becomes available

 

[JP4CY]

I live in LA.

Trust me, nobody is actually watching college football on TV or streaming on the west coast. Nobody. I swear I might be the only college football fan I see for weeks at a time in the fall. The only way I see college football fans is if I go right downtown near USC's stadium. I used to live near UCLA's campus and now I live 10 minutes from the Rose Bowl. Nothing. Sometimes go into a bar and no Pac 12 games on TV even. It's just luck if they have it on ESPN, if Big Ten or ACC is on ESPN, they're playing that randomly rather than a Pac game.

There's a lot more to do outside in the fall...it makes them even less likely to watch any TV of any sort, not more likely.

I've only spent a few weeks in the PNW so it might be different up there...there also aren't a ton of people up there which is supposedly what this is all about. Where the people are in the west, they don't watch sports much, especially not college sports.

I've been to the PNW in the fall. Portland and Seattle have diehard Seahawks and Trailblazers fans. Wait until the NHL team starts up. Wouldn't be suprised if the Sonics return. Huge pro area.
Seattle really cares about basketball. A lot of good high schoolers up there.

 

[WhoISthis]

Well when the B1G re-ups in a few years Iowa will get just as much of a media payout as Ohio St. and there's no doubt it'll be more than they're making now. Not really speculation. And you're saying that sometime down the road when conferences completely change payout structure of NCAA MBB tournament, KU will surpass Iowa. But who the hell knows when or if that will actually happen, so again, complete speculation. As is suggesting KU will be in the B1G in a few years.

Again, you had to pivot. We were talking about revenue brought in by programs, and now you’re talking conference checks.

it is speculative that no future movement will occur between now and then. Including the BIG. We don’t know- the SEC is completely in charge

 

[WhoISthis]

I've been to the PNW in the fall. Portland and Seattle have diehard Seahawks and Trailblazers fans. Wait until the NHL team starts up. Wouldn't be suprised if the Sonics return. Huge pro area.
Seattle really cares about basketball. A lot of good high schoolers up there.

Seattle is significantly better in supporting their pro teams than California. Even the Sounders draw well. I’m not sure theyre as passionate about college football

 

[scyclonekid]

So the numbers from sicem was encouraging and not awful not as bad as anticipated, still moving parts to happen. If adding two more in Memphis and boise make money and sense then do it. Will be interesting. In the end if our conference has better football teams as a whole versus ACC and PAC then why should they get more?

 

[NWICY]

Its really not a good indicator of interest. Its a good indicator of how the in game atmosphere is, what else is available to do in the area, ease of access to the stadium etc. The in game experience is dying in most places not due to a lack of interest but because there are so many better ways to watch a game now without sitting in traffic for hours, paying insane concessions prices, and being jammed into tiny seats. I watch every single Michigan and state game but refuse to go in person unless its in a box. It just isn't worth it for the poor experience.

So do you pony up for part of a box/suite experience or hope you get comped on somebody's coat tails?

 

[BCClone]

Still wish if it could be confirmed the statement that there is a clause that if the big XII expands that there is a 25MM bump per team. If so, we could adjust things just slightly and still not take a cut while the others would be only a smidge behind us.

 

[Neptune78]

Nothing like coming to CF and seeing hok, Michigan St, and Wisconsin fans going back and forth.

 

[FriendlySpartan]

So do you pony up for part of a box/suite experience or hope you get comped on somebody's coat tails?

A combination of both but much more regularly on someone's coattails or checkbook.

 

[cyIclSoneU]

In the end if our conference has better football teams as a whole versus ACC and PAC then why should they get more?

If only it worked this way. Ohio State could go 2-10 for a decade and still be worth more from a TV perspective than a Cincinnati that goes to NY6 bowls annually.

CFB is not a sport for people who like parity. It has other charm but the commercialization is rubbing off some of that charm.

 

[BWRhasnoAC]

The leaders took the cheap and easy way out and it will destroy the game. If they would have agreed to pay players a nominal wage we could have avoided the NIL carnage.

They wanted the chaos. If you're rich you can bully the market.

 

[CloneJD]

Still wish if it could be confirmed the statement that there is a clause that if the big XII expands that there is a 25MM bump per team. If so, we could adjust things just slightly and still not take a cut while the others would be only a smidge behind us.

That was taken out of the contract when the last deal was re-done. We settled for more money without going beyond 10 teams. In return we agreed to remove that provision from the contract.

 

[WhoISthis]

That was taken out of the contract when the last deal was re-done. We settled for more money without going beyond 10 teams. In return we agreed to remove that provision from the contract.

We walked right into it. Never saw it coming, although Boren was whoring the entire time

 

[cyIclSoneU]

That was taken out of the contract when the last deal was re-done. We settled for more money without going beyond 10 teams. In return we agreed to remove that provision from the contract.

It's not a big deal at all. If we had kept it in, it would only be in effect through 2024-25 anyway. That's only two seasons with the new additions where they'd get a pro rata bump. After that, when we went to market, we'd get whatever they actually are worth.

 

[DurangoCy]

Nothing like coming to CF and seeing hok, Michigan St, and Wisconsin fans going back and forth.

If CF gets a penny and ISU gets a penny for every post from a d-bag Iowa fan from this site, ISU will make Scrooge McDuck look poor.

 

[AuH2O]

Well when the B1G re-ups in a few years Iowa will get just as much of a media payout as Ohio St. and there's no doubt it'll be more than they're making now. Not really speculation. And you're saying that sometime down the road when conferences completely change payout structure of NCAA MBB tournament, KU will surpass Iowa. But who the hell knows when or if that will actually happen, so again, complete speculation. As is suggesting KU will be in the B1G in a few years.

I think it’s a little presumptuous to assume future deals are going to be evenly distributed. If schools can start paying players freely in a direct way the marginal dollars are going to become way more important in getting talent. OSU, UM, PSU and UW might no longer be willing to watch the big boys in the SEC get a big recruiting advantage to subsidize the rest of the league at such a high level.

 

[JohnnyFive]

Lol. You talking in absolutes is cute.

UCLA is not a "Brand". No one cares about UCLA, not even their own "fans".

Only a Sith Lord deals in absolutes

 

[knowlesjam]

I still think that the PAC is not going to be happy with their projected TV revenue...the ACC at least has stability through 2035, although the revenue stays pretty flat adjusted for inflation and other things. The expanded Big 12 will certainly compete with either of these leagues for viewers (and ad rates).

Plenty of entertaining games in 2023 and 2024 (if OuT doesn't buy out)...Texas-Houston, WV-Cincy, BYU-TCU, etc. along with the traditional Big 12 games. A nice November trip to UCF is a bonus.