Missing Montezuma Boy

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Clonefan32

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I'm not sure what to really think in this case. It does seem like Rivera likely did it acting alone.

However, our Justice System doesn't like to be wrong. There are examples all over the place of the Justice System deciding someone is guilty and ignoring other evidence at the time. Its not super common, and usually the face value of something holds true, but not always.

I sure hope the State is looking into the allegations from Rivera seriously. It seems outlandish, but many of the biggest crimes are often unbelievable, outlandish things.

It reminds me a lot of a true crime podcast I listened to recently. A man and his girlfriend had a home invasion occur, they were both tied up, the girlfriend was kidnapped and the man instructed to obtain money for her release and not go to the police. Later the next day the man called the police anyways and reported it. The police immediately assumed he murdered her and was spinning some elaborate story. They held him for days while the girlfriend was held hostage and raped. Eventually she was released, but officials didn't believe her story either. Eventually the guy that did the home invasion attempted another one and was caught, which ended up confirming the couples story and clearing there names.

Again, the above isn't the standard, but extreme things do happen at times, and it'd be a disservice to not treat those allegations seriously if they did lead to a larger crime.

FYI, if interested in the podcast, here's a link, its a two-parter. https://thisiscriminal.com/episode-167-48-hours-6-18-21

You've pretty well captured my thoughts as well. I think the most plausible explanation is that he did it. But I also think that once law enforcement creates a theory they aren't very amenable to alternative theories. That's especially true in a high profile case where there is pressure to arrest and convict.

So do I think they probably did their diligence to investigate these new allegations? Probably not.
 

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You've pretty well captured my thoughts as well. I think the most plausible explanation is that he did it. But I also think that once law enforcement creates a theory they aren't very amenable to alternative theories. That's especially true in a high profile case where there is pressure to arrest and convict.

So do I think they probably did their diligence to investigate these new allegations? Probably not.

I trust law enforcement to do the right thing. Especially rural law enforcement dealing with a young Hispanic male.
 

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A horrible, weird story gets weirder.

Meanwhile, in Madison, WI area, they're finding body parts of a 23 year old's parents and initial signs point to him doing the deed.

WI is at times the 'hold my beer' of outrageous murder stories.

I live way too close to this one
 

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Per DMR judge denied motion to compel as the investigations were not linked to tibbets or CRB.
 

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Not exactly sure.
Normally a “keep it in the cave” guy as well, but this topic was probably destined to go that direction
Probably, but I’m still amazed how so many people feel the need for a hold my beer comment when it is best to ignore the comment you think is dumb. Respond and it flares it up, ignore it and it dies off.
 
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Probably, but I’m still amazed how so few people feel the need for a hold my beer comment when it is best to ignore the comment you think is dumb. Respond and it flares it up, ignore it and it dies off.

I agree. Just the reality
 

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Probably, but I’m still amazed how so few people feel the need for a hold my beer comment when it is best to ignore the comment you think is dumb. Respond and it flares it up, ignore it and it dies off.

Its more that certain political posts are allowed, but then as soon as someone pushes back at them, then that pushback and the original comment get deleted. Its been a problem on this board and often effectively puts a political tilt on non-cave threads.
 
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You've pretty well captured my thoughts as well. I think the most plausible explanation is that he did it. But I also think that once law enforcement creates a theory they aren't very amenable to alternative theories. That's especially true in a high profile case where there is pressure to arrest and convict.

So do I think they probably did their diligence to investigate these new allegations? Probably not.
Those are quite the accusations of law enforcement. Do you have any facts at all to back this up?
Looks to me like they went where the evidence took them...
 

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Making waves? Looking for reduced sentence deals for testimony? With it being a regional/national story some guys with nothing but time on their hands decided to try and cash in? I don’t know, but even with their recent revelations it still doesn’t pass the smell test.


Are Maki or Vos serving life sentences? Long sentences? Is Vos even in jail? Asking cuz I don't know.
 
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