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Foster is one of the best shooters we have he needs a lot of minutes! Him and Hunter are our foundation to build around!
Agree 100%, but I think, especially early in the season, Conditt may be a more effective overall player than Foster. I have been a huge critic of Conditt the past two years, but I just think (and hope) he is going to step up and rise to the occasion his senior year. Foster will be a star for ISU, and if he ready now that is great - but I think he needs some time to grow into that role.
 

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Is Foster actually one of the best shooters on the team? Idk if that’s bad or good. Obviously I know he’s a great shooter for his size and position… but I’m hoping there’s at least few guys better.
 

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Is Foster actually one of the best shooters on the team? Idk if that’s bad or good. Obviously I know he’s a great shooter for his size and position… but I’m hoping there’s at least few guys better.
I think if Foster shoots around 35% that’d be gravy. As long as there are 4 guys above that.
 

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Grill, Kal, Jaz, Hinson, Johnson, Jackson? Those would be the names in the conversation. Not saying they are all better shooters than Foster but if he’s the best shooter in the team either he’s the GOAT or we are in trouble.

PLAYER = CAREER 3% (BEST SEASON 3%)

Johnson = 34.9% (43.8% as a freshman)
Kalscheur = 34.5% (41.0% as a freshman)
Hinson = 33.3% (34.8% as a freshman)
Brockington = 32.6% (41.5% as a freshman)
Kunc = 32.3% (35.3% as a freshman)
Grill = 31.9% (34.2% as a sophomore)
Jackson = 31.1% (33.7% as a freshman, though 37.9% in the B12 that season)
Walker = 28.6% (only one season)
Enaruna = 24.5% (25.8% as a freshman)

Skipped Conditt, Jones, Hunter, and Foster for a lack of sample size.

Johnson, Kalscheur, and Brockington have proven they can be elite shooters -- they just seemed to have lost some touch after their freshman years. Hopefully coaching and culture can return them to form. I would add Tre Jackson to that list, too. He got off to an incredibly slow start a a true freshman but came on nicely late that season. He regressed as a sophomore, but injury and COVID will do that to you.

So there might be four guys who could push for 40% (or at least 35%+) right there.

Hinson, Kunc, and Grill each have their best season around 35%. Hunter does not come in with an elite shooting reputation for his position -- that being one of the major things he needs to work on in the scouting reports. But who knows, maybe something will click there for him.

Not expecting much out of Jones here. And hey, Conditt made a three in Greece!

Foster has a reputation as a shooter and is a career 50% (only four attempts, though).

I don't think this is going to be an elite shooting team, but there are adequate pieces up there. If somebody like Kalscheur starts seeing the rim grow in size again, then it will help quite a lot.
 
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PLAYER = CAREER 3% (BEST SEASON 3%)

Johnson = 34.9% (43.8% as a freshman)
Kalscheur = 34.5% (41.0% as a freshman)
Hinson = 33.3% (34.8% as a freshman)
Brockington = 32.6% (41.5% as a freshman)
Kunc = 32.3% (35.3% as a freshman)
Grill = 31.9% (34.2% as a sophomore)
Jackson = 31.1% (33.7% as a freshman, though 37.9% in the B12 that season)
Walker = 28.6% (only one season)
Enaruna = 24.5% (25.8% as a freshman)

Skipped Conditt, Jones, Hunter, and Foster for a lack of sample size.

Johnson, Kalscheur, and Brockington have proven they can be elite shooters -- they just seemed to have lost some touch after their freshman years. Hopefully coaching and culture can return them to form. I would add Tre Jackson to that list, too. He got off to an incredibly slow start a a true freshman but came on nicely late that season. He regressed as a sophomore, but injury and COVID will do that to you.

So there might be four guys who could push for 40% (or at least 35%+) right there.

Hinson, Kunc, and Grill each have their best season around 35%. Hunter does not come in with an elite shooting reputation for his position -- that being one of the major things he needs to work on in the scouting reports. But who knows, maybe something will click there for him.

Not expecting much out of Jones here. And hey, Conditt made a three in Greece!

Foster has a reputation as a shooter and is a career 50% (only four attempts, though).

I don't think this is going to be an elite shooting team, but there are adequate pieces up there. If somebody like Kalscheur starts seeing the rim grow in size again, then it will help quite a lot.

What are guys' best years since they moved the 3 point line back. That had a HUGE impact on shooting percentages. I believe they moved it back in 2019

NCAA women's 3 point line moves back this year. We'll likely see a drop from them as well
 

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What are guys' best years since they moved the 3 point line back. That had a HUGE impact on shooting percentages. I believe they moved it back in 2019

NCAA women's 3 point line moves back this year. We'll likely see a drop from them as well

This true and a good point. Moving the line back has affected the sport more strongly than most of us appreciate. Made a lot of good shooters into mediocre ones and mediocre ones into bad ones.
 

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I think we will see some improved shooting under TJ/Blount. Especially if the culture/hard work they are trying to bring back works. Obviously the 3 point line change has effected those numbers across the country as someone else just pointed out, a lot of people seem to forget that and expect the old numbers.

They just need more passing and better shot selection than we’ve seen recently.
 
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I think we will see some improved shooting under TJ/Blount. Especially if the culture/hard work they are trying to bring back works. Obviously the 3 point line change has effected those numbers across the country as someone else just pointed out, a lot of people seem to forget that and expect the old numbers.

They just need more passing and better shot selection than we’ve seen recently.

TJ's 2019 SDSU was #3 in the country in 3 point shooting. He also improved UNLV from 32% his first season to 34.6% last season (#2 shooter on last years UNLV team was Caleb Grill-35%, he was 25% under Prhom)
Coach Blount, going back to his Drake teams, have never shot below 35.2% from 3
Coach Green, at UNI, was top 10 in the country for 3 point shooting in 2020

Compare that to the 2020 and 2021 ISU teams that shot 31.6% and 32%
 

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I think we will see some improved shooting under TJ/Blount. Especially if the culture/hard work they are trying to bring back works. Obviously the 3 point line change has effected those numbers across the country as someone else just pointed out, a lot of people seem to forget that and expect the old numbers.

They just need more passing and better shot selection than we’ve seen recently.

I really don't know enough about basketball to know if shooting is more of a function of reputation (and hence program culture and practice discipline) or proper form and mechanics.

Probably some of both. Haliburton's shot looks janky but it goes in, probably because he practices a lot.

I trust the staff on the culture/discipline stuff, but I am not sure if any of them have reputations as elite coaches of technique or Xs and Os outside of Kyle Green being a developer of big men.

Blount wasn't an elite shooter at Loyola-Chicago, either. He was a career 83/302 (27.5%). Maybe that doesn't matter, though. Lost of people are better coaches than they are players.
 

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I really don't know enough about basketball to know if shooting is more of a function of reputation (and hence program culture and practice discipline) or proper form and mechanics.

Probably some of both. Haliburton's shot looks janky but it goes in, probably because he practices a lot.

I trust the staff on the culture/discipline stuff, but I am not sure if any of them have reputations as elite coaches of technique or Xs and Os outside of Kyle Green being a developer of big men.

Blount wasn't an elite shooter at Loyola-Chicago, either. He was a career 83/302 (27.5%). Maybe that doesn't matter, though. Lost of people are better coaches than they are players.

Recruiting good shooters is always the best way to increase 3P% and foster a shooting culture. For the most part, I don't buy mechanic adjustments via coaching instruction as a big factor. Pre-shot prep is probably more important than changing a player's upper body form at this point in their development.

tldr; shooting coaches are overrated at this level
 
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Recruiting good shooters is always the best way to increase 3P% and foster a shooting culture. For the most part, I don't buy mechanic adjustments via coaching instruction as a big factor. Pre-shot prep is probably more important than changing a player's upper body form at this point in their development.

tldr; shooting coaches are overrated at this level

Okay. So how do Lipsey and King project as shooters?

Hunter is an elite recruit, but the one fly in the ointment with him seems to be inconsistent shooting.
 

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Agree 100%, but I think, especially early in the season, Conditt may be a more effective overall player than Foster. I have been a huge critic of Conditt the past two years, but I just think (and hope) he is going to step up and rise to the occasion his senior year. Foster will be a star for ISU, and if he ready now that is great - but I think he needs some time to grow into that role.
If Jones works his bum off he will take Conditts minutes. Otz got energy guys so I dont think he is going to let a near 7 footer get less than 5 boards and still play.
 

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Recruiting good shooters is always the best way to increase 3P% and foster a shooting culture. For the most part, I don't buy mechanic adjustments via coaching instruction as a big factor. Pre-shot prep is probably more important than changing a player's upper body form at this point in their development.

tldr; shooting coaches are overrated at this level

What coaches CAN do to improve shooting is to create more open looks.
 

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If Jones works his bum off he will take Conditts minutes. Otz got energy guys so I dont think he is going to let a near 7 footer get less than 5 boards and still play.

I think the plan is he works his butt off and the other guys feed off that and follow suit. He’s a great big practice body to help Foster and Conditt develop and work against who could see some spot minutes in a limited role.
 
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I think the plan is he works his butt off and the other guys feed off that and follow suit. He’s a great big practice body to help Foster and Conditt develop and work against who could see some spot minutes in a limited role.
Possibly. Jones seems like a character guy so it wouldn't surprise me if we saw a lot of him OOC early in the schedule.