Aaron Rodgers

[mplueg]

Fortunately, Rodgers lives and works in America and can do what he wants.

right, but he’s also under contract and shouldn’t pout if they say”no”

if you did that in your job how would it work out for you?

 

[Macloney]

right, but he’s also under contract and shouldn’t pout if they say”no”

if you did that in your job how would it work out for you?

If I didn't want to do something at work I wouldn't. I've actually quit a career position job on the spot before. Employment is a two way street and it has to benefit both parties. I don't have the kind of money that Rodgers has, but I could quit my job tomorrow and be okay for a while. He doesn't ever have to work again.

 

[Mr Janny]

right, but he’s also under contract and shouldn’t pout if they say”no”

if you did that in your job how would it work out for you?

You cannot compare an NFL contract to a contract that your average person might enter. They're not the same thing, so if you start from the assumption that they are, you're making a mistake.

NFL contracts, outside of very, very few are not guaranteed, meaning the team can cancel them at any time for any reason and stop paying the player. How would that work out in the real world?
Additionally, rules for holding out are written into the collective bargaining agreement that players and teams have agreed to. It's a legitimate and expected strategy for players to affect change. It's the power given to players to counterbalance those non-guaranteed contracts.

Don't fall for the "he agreed to the contract, he should honor it" propaganda. Literally zero teams stick to that logic when it isn't beneficial to them.

 

[ClonesTwenty1]

right, but he’s also under contract and shouldn’t pout if they say”no”

if you did that in your job how would it work out for you?

Personally, I’m not an ass kisser and I don’t kiss my bosses ass. I speak my mind at work and my managers know where I stand on multiple issues at work.

 

[mplueg]

If I didn't want to do something at work I wouldn't. I've actually quit a career position job on the spot before. Employment is a two way street and it has to benefit both parties. I don't have the kind of money that Rodgers has, but I could quit my job tomorrow and be okay for a while. He doesn't ever have to work again.

exactly - so he can quit, trying to bully himself into a trade is ridiculous!

 

[mplueg]

You cannot compare an NFL contract to a contract that your average person might enter. They're not the same thing, so if you start from the assumption that they are, you're making a mistake.

NFL contracts, outside of very, very few are not guaranteed, meaning the team can cancel them at any time for any reason and stop paying the player. How would that work out in the real world?
Additionally, rules for holding out are written into the collective bargaining agreement that players and teams have agreed to. It's a legitimate and expected strategy for players to affect change. It's the power given to players to counterbalance those non-guaranteed contracts.

Don't fall for the "he agreed to the contract, he should honor it" propaganda. Literally zero teams stick to that logic when it isn't beneficial to them.

we’re in a free will state, you sign that when you start. Anyone can virtually be fired for any reason.

if he doesn’t like it quit! Bullying his way into trying to get his way and get the front office fired is ridiculous

 

[flynnhicks03]

we’re in a free will state, you sign that when you start. Anyone can virtually be fired for any reason.

if he doesn’t like it quit! Bullying his way into trying to get his way and get the front office fired is ridiculous

"Bullying" is a dumb way of looking at it. People "bully" their employers everyday by asking for raises, promotions, etc People have to look out for themselves.

 

[Mr Janny]

we’re in a free will state, you sign that when you start. Anyone can virtually be fired for any reason.

if he doesn’t like it quit! Bullying his way into trying to get his way and get the front office fired is ridiculous

At will employment does not factor in here. Not in the slightest.

We're talking about contracts. There are terms for cancelling an NFL contract. Teams are given certain circumstances under which they are allowed to void them and players are given circumstances under which they are allowed to hold out.

There's really nothing beyond that. If the Packers don't like what Rodgers is saying, they are free to terminate his contract under the terms of the collective bargaining agreement. If he refuses to play games, they are allowed to fine him under those same terms.

I highly doubt they're going to do either of those things though.

 

[mplueg]

At will employment does not factor in here. Not in the slightest.

We're talking about contracts. There are terms for cancelling an NFL contract. Teams are given certain circumstances under which they are allowed to void them and players are given circumstances under which they are allowed to hold out.

There's really nothing beyond that. If the Packers don't like what Rodgers is saying, they are free to terminate his contract under the terms of the collective bargaining agreement. If he refuses to play games, they are allowed to fine him under those same terms.

I highly doubt they're going to do either of those things though.

I just think it is unfortunate that the players have all the power. Has the front office done him any favors - no, but it is not his job to regulate the front office.

I think it is very hypocritical being butt hurt over them taking Love last year

 

[cyrocksmypants]

Someone is taking this hard.

 

[cyrocksmypants]

I just think it is unfortunate that the players have all the power. Has the front office done him any favors - no, but it is not his job to regulate the front office.

I think it is very hypocritical being butt hurt over them taking Love last year

I don’t have a dog in this fight because I don’t care about the Packers and I don’t care about Rodgers, but that bolded part of what you said......big yikes if that’s how you think it works.

 

[mplueg]

I don’t have a dog in this fight because I don’t care about the Packers and I don’t care about Rodgers, but that bolded part of what you said......big yikes if that’s how you think it works.

lol how?

has a player ever not had their trade request granted? No - because it’s in the best interest of the organization to do so - the organizations get screwed in these situations

 

[mplueg]

Someone is taking this hard.

lol no

I’m a packers fan and hope they move on. Hate it when players think they are bigger than the organization regardless of team

 

[Mr Janny]

I just think it is unfortunate that the players have all the power. Has the front office done him any favors - no, but it is not his job to regulate the front office.

I think it is very hypocritical being butt hurt over them taking Love last year

Are you kidding? The players absolutely do not have the power. Not in the NFL. In the NBA, players have far more power. The owners by far have more power in football though.

 

[cyrocksmypants]

lol how?

has a player ever not had their trade request granted? No - because it’s in the best interest of the organization to do so - the organizations get screwed in these situations

Players have literally never had the power in the NFL. It’s why they had to create the NFLPA. That’s why they have collective bargaining agreements. And they still don’t have power. The only power they have is to request a trade or sit out. Teams can dump players at any time for any reason. If you think players have all of the power, you haven’t been paying attention through the history of the sport.

 

[cyrocksmypants]

Are you kidding? The players absolutely do not have the power. Not in the NFL. In the NBA, players have far more power. The owners by far have more power in football though.

He sounds like someone that gets angry at factory workers when they strike for safe working conditions.

 

[mplueg]

Are you kidding? The players absolutely do not have the power. Not in the NFL. In the NBA, players have far more power. The owners by far have more power in football though.

how?

name a player that has wanted out that hasn’t gotten their way. It’s in the best interest of the organization to move on. The organization has no power in these matters.

we’ll have to agree to disagree

 

[Mr Janny]

lol how?

has a player ever not had their trade request granted? No - because it’s in the best interest of the organization to do so - the organizations get screwed in these situations

Melvin gordon.

how?

name a player that has wanted out that hasn’t gotten their way. It’s in the best interest of the organization to move on. The organization has no power in these matters.

we’ll have to agree to disagree

Melvin Gordon

 

[mplueg]

He sounds like someone that gets angry at factory workers when they strike for safe working conditions.

Hate unions actually, creates lots of lazy people

 

[cyrocksmypants]

Hate unions actually, creates lots of lazy people

I can tell you do. You’re proving it here.