****Official Class of 2022 Recruiting Thread****
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He’s not better than Bolton. Rasir is a “dude” in much the same way that Brackins and Diante were dudes. He just doesn’t have the supporting cast.
I don’t get this new narrative about how bad Rah is. It’s a **** move by these people
i just hope he stays and doesn’t transfer next year
@Cat Stevens Curious why you dumbed this. Hard to argue with the points I made but I'm interested to hear it nonetheless.
Sure, I get where you're coming from. I get frustrated when I see fans commenting negative things about the state of the program on CycloneMBB instagram posts or tweets from the official account. Stuff that is directly in the feeds of potential recruits. But CF? I don't think there's a lot of traffic from recruits on here, although that is just a feeling I have.
On the other hand, what are we supposed to do? Just sit back and be complacent?
because you weren’t right. It’s a talking point that people worked themselves into believing is reality.
Please expand. I said he underachieved with Hoiberg's players, and fell on his face when he had his own roster full of NBA talent. Which of these facts do you disagree with?
Oh good. Another one that won’t accept mediocrity. He’s going to lose his job after the season. It won’t happen before the season is over.
And of course parents and kids read this site. This is an easy google search when you search for cyclone fan sites. Conditt and Zion Griffin even talked about what was said on here last year.
kids absolutely know what’s being said.
this has been covered so many times. That first team was a six man rotation, with hallice cook playing when Jameel got mad at being held accountable. The second year they won 11-13 to end the year, and the big 12 tournament. They won 3 tournament games. They were good teams.
And no matter how many times you keep repeating how loaded those teams were, it still doesn’t make it so.
the last three years were bad, and he’s going to be let go at the end of the year.
Dude. I never said fire him now. I'm of the opinion we need a change after this season. Doing it now does nothing.
I simply expressed dissatisfaction with the under performance over the past years and the current trajectory under CSP. This is a known sentiment within the fan base.
Don’t worry there will be a change made after the season. But read the absolute offensive comments people are making about players on here. They are actually going after Bolton now.
but someone will come on here and say we aren’t as mean as Kentucky, so it’s ok.
there is a lot to be dissatisfied about. There will be a change in another month. But these kids don’t deserve some of the nonsense they get hurled at them, not saying you do it, but it’s adults making these comments about kids to kids
it is good they’re better than to respond, but this is why Zach McCabe told hawk fans to suck a fat one.
Prohm had 5 NBA players on his first team. 4 the next year. 3 (not even including LW) on his first real team in 18-19. Saying those teams weren't loaded is.... a stretch.
Man I completely agree with this. Going after the players is never okay. I also am not on board with the personal shots at CSP. He's a good guy, it's just time to move on.
Of course. If you were a recruit and you and your parents heard all the fans screaming to get rid of the coach you were being recruited by and believed in, what would you do? Fans and supporters of a program have a huge impact on recruiting.
I agree. People who are ******** about Prohm and players publically on this forum are wrecking the program.
It has been mentioned, a number of times, that recruits, parents of recruits, coaches of recruits, etc. monitor message boards of schools recruiting them. If you want to complain, contact the man who makes the decisions, Jamie Pollard.
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Yeah, to think that in the age of social media, that people don’t read all the coach and player bashing that goes on here and Facebook and Twitter, they’re either naive, or they want to make sure it’s read by players, recruits, and families.
with Steve being dead man walking to begin with, piling on players is a great look. Definitely helping the next coach with players and recruit retention.
When people bring this point up, I feel like I have to defend Prohm. I don't think Thomas or Nader would have become NBA players without Prohm. Look at their stats in Hoiberg's last season vs. the next year. Either both of them did something over that summer on their own to get a lot better, or you have to give Prohm credit for developing them or optimizing their talents. Burton is more tough to say, but he also obviously developed from his years at Marquette to his years at Iowa State. Niang and Morris probably would have made it to the NBA either way, so I won't give Prohm extra credit for them.
I see how you can say first couple of years Prohm underperformed given the talent, but he also certainly raised the ceiling of that talent. I think you could make a similar, but not quite as strong, argument for the THT year.
To be clear, I don't think Prohm should have a future at Iowa State, but I think it's wrong to act like his best years were still massive underperformances based solely off of the NBA talent that may have not developed without him.
While I believe there will be a change, I do think there is hope. Some think I put too much weight on Hunter, but his video clips are the first player I've seen in a while that I think makes an immediate impact.
A lineup of three really good guards that can drive, pass and shoot and having your two bigs be able to rebound and knock down open threes sounds like something we haven't had in a while.
PG: Hunter (can get into the lane in ways we haven't seen since Tinsley, has a good (not great) shot to keep defenders honest, and has solid vision/willing passer)
SG: Bolton (I think he'll be even better if he plays off the ball and can focus on scoring)
SG2/SF: Walker (he's improved the most on the team (now looks like a solid driver, passer, 3P shooter and defender), and he's still learning/improving)
PF/Small Ball 4: Hinson (I admit this is the one I may be putting too much weight on, but he sure looks like he can board, defend, hit open threes and drive if needed)
Center: Foster (despite being hobbled, you saw flashes of great 3P shooting, solid screening, developing post game and rim protector; I just think a healthy Foster will be an impact maker (but unfortunately he then may only be around 1-2 more years))
Add solid (Tre Jackson) and instant offense players (Tyler Harris and Javan) off the bench, and I think there's a LOT of reason for hope (yeah, I know the haters will say Prohm will ruin the talent, blah, blah, blah).
Is what it is, but I do have hope in the above roster.
That being said, I suspect half of those players won't be here next year if Prohm is gone as expected as he's a father figure to most of them. Yeah, I know, most will say it's worth it because Prohm sucks so bad, but as a Cyclone fan for over 40+ years I really want to see how that roster would do.
