@Cytown12 - I'm not sure why you would mark this as "dumb". it's not what I want to happen, it's what I think is likely.
If we go winless in the conference, does Prohm get fired?
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@Cytown12 - I'm not sure why you would mark this as "dumb". it's not what I want to happen, it's what I think is likely.
This offseason showed me everything I needed to know about his ability to run a program. Anyone with a pulse who watched last year knew we needed a PG, shooting and rebounding. Instead he got us 5 combo guards who can't shoot and Xavier Foster. No plan. No strategy. No identity. Just a random assortment of players who are given zero direction.
We don't need this. Keep the family out of it. He is a head coach that gets paid millions of dollars to coach basketball....he is fair game. His family is not.
Looking at our schedule, could this turn out to be the single worst year winning percentages wise ever?
I've been thinking alot about that as well. But here is the difference. Lets say in two years football has to rebuild. They go 5-7 or 4-8. Matt Campbell has taken this program to extreme heights. And he did it by building the program from the bottom up.
CSP inherited a team that was made for the NCAA tournament in both his first two years. He didn't have have to add much and in retrospect he didn't. An above average coach, much less a great coach, could of capitalized on those two teams and continued to build around what Fred had in place. He didn't. He didn't exceed expectations in year 1 by showing he was an elite coaching mind. Rather we met the minimum expectations for that team and then to his credit had a great Year 2 with Monte, Matt, Naz, Burton, etc. Since then it has been garbage. I would argue that over 85% of the coaches in the Power 5 could have gotten better results from these players over the last four years.
I'm willing to give Matt a pass when the time comes but everyday that CSP continues to be our head coach I become more angry. ISU basketball has been something I have loved dearly since the mid 1980's when I was 8 years old. He has destroyed this program after Hoiberg had consistently made up a Top 20 team and a Top 25 program. I honestly can't forgive him for what he has done to this program.
Luckily for Prohm the off season was littered with opportunities to get kids on campus to sell the program...
I wondered this too. Is this honestly the worst Iowa State team of all time? Which one was worse?
I was dismayed to not see Blackwell last night at all. Seems as though Prohm is conceding him as a swing and miss already. Walker was low-ranked so understandable why we didn't see him.
Why would the optics be bad? Does a coach expect to be retained when they go 3-15 in the conference? If Arizona can fire Kevin Sumlin then we can certainly move on from CSP.
Weird how other people were able to fill holes in their roster.
Also all 4 freshmen were signed pre-Covid, and all appear to not fill areas of huge need.
I just can't quite figure out why people want to act like COVID difficulties were singular to Steve Prohm.
If we went 0-18 in conference play (we won't), Prohm no questions asked would lose his job. MBB isn't a huge money maker for the AD but season ticket applications would tank coming off that terrible of a record.
There obviously would be a money issue but you have an even bigger money issue if you hang on too long and lose a year or two of additional revenue in the process.
There obviously would be a money issue but you have an even bigger money issue if you hang on too long and lose a year or two of additional revenue in the process.
I disagree. Do people care more if we go 2-16 or 0-18? I don't think it makes a difference.
I don't see it that way. KSU doesn't have anyone that can get to the rack and finish like Bolton. It's on Prohm to figure out how to exploit that. I could do that for every player - they have strengths, but you can't see it in this "system".
I really believe Huggy would win 7-9 games with this squad. OK, maybe that's high, but they'd be playing much better/effective basketball.
Huggins is a hall of fame coach. He has one down year a few years ago and got rid of the trash and immediately rebuilt West Virginia. We would finish no worse that 7-11 in the conference with Huggins and this roster.
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The other thing is, none of Prohms issues are new. He was in over his head well before Covid.
