Grass fed vs. Corn fed beef

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What and how do you wet/dry age beef?
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Your beef will taste a lot better if you stay at choice grading or better. Best steak I've ever had was a prime ribeye done sous vide then seared on the grill. . You could cut that with a fork.
 

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Next question:
What and how do you wet/dry age beef?
Thank you in advance.

Wet aging typically means letting the cut of beef sit in it’s cryovac unopened for a period of time in a temperature controlled environment.

Dry aging is similar just without the cryovac wrapping.

Both rely on enzymes or bacteria to continue to break down the tissue and “tenderize” the meat.

Doing this allows you to get a cut (typically a steak) that is fork tender. It does make a difference.
 
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Grain fed all the way and it isn't even close.... And if you ask me, beef fed silage in addition to corn has even better tasting marbling because of the natural alcohols in silage which make the steaks and hamburgers second to none.
 
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Not sure why you drug ethanol into this conversation.....several of your posts are fairly incoherent so it’s difficult.

I can break down the digestive system of a cow if you’d like me to to explain how a cow generates methane gas but please tell me and I can DM it since most here probably know this basic knowledge and don’t want me to make that long of a post.
[/QUOTE please explain what was incoherent.

I know the basics as well.
it is really a perspective thing. There is always a point to be made based on your interests. Want to raise corn? Figure out what the best angles are and pound those home. If you want to drill oil, figure out how to suggest your competition is worse when it isn't comparing apples to apples.

The fact is cows were not designed to eat corn. Nothing was, it's an artificial creation made by man. Calling grass fed, something off or wrong or bad is short-sighted and inaccurate. It is what cattle are supposed to be and what they taste like naturally. Don't like it, that's ok. Used to something different, that is also ok. "I hate stout beer, it's not real beer because I don't like it and it's different than the bud light I like to drink." Is a similar sort of short sighted statement. That is the point I am trying to make.
 
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Not exactly sure.
it is really a perspective thing. There is always a point to be made based on your interests. Want to raise corn? Figure out what the best angles are and pound those home. If you want to drill oil, figure out how to suggest your competition is worse when it isn't comparing apples to apples.

The fact is cows were not designed to eat corn. Nothing was, it's an artificial creation made by man. Calling grass fed, something off or wrong or bad is short-sighted and inaccurate. It is what cattle are supposed to be and what they taste like naturally. Don't like it, that's ok. Used to something different, that is also ok. "I hate stout beer, it's not real beer because I don't like it and it's different than the bud light I like to drink." Is a similar sort of short sighted statement. That is the point I am trying to make.
That post is coherent. I don’t care if you like grass fed, I don’t. Had it in a couple places it seemed to have a stringy texture and the flavor was off. Once it was almost a faintly sour taste is the best way to describe it, that was on an Oklahoma ranch. Had to sit there and tell them it was good as I was choking the stuff down.
 
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it is really a perspective thing. There is always a point to be made based on your interests. Want to raise corn? Figure out what the best angles are and pound those home. If you want to drill oil, figure out how to suggest your competition is worse when it isn't comparing apples to apples.

The fact is cows were not designed to eat corn. Nothing was, it's an artificial creation made by man. Calling grass fed, something off or wrong or bad is short-sighted and inaccurate. It is what cattle are supposed to be and what they taste like naturally. Don't like it, that's ok. Used to something different, that is also ok. "I hate stout beer, it's not real beer because I don't like it and it's different than the bud light I like to drink." Is a similar sort of short sighted statement. That is the point I am trying to make.

If you are going to go down the road that cows weren’t meant to eat corn, then you should not even be eating meat. Our Ancestors were originally Vegan. Humans evolved to become omnivores. If you are going down the natural road, eat Your vegetables.
 

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@CYDJ, if you are looking to expand, the Koch family is putting their Flint Hills Ks ranch for sale 11,000 acres at 23.2 million.
 

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it is really a perspective thing. There is always a point to be made based on your interests. Want to raise corn? Figure out what the best angles are and pound those home. If you want to drill oil, figure out how to suggest your competition is worse when it isn't comparing apples to apples.

The fact is cows were not designed to eat corn. Nothing was, it's an artificial creation made by man. Calling grass fed, something off or wrong or bad is short-sighted and inaccurate. It is what cattle are supposed to be and what they taste like naturally. Don't like it, that's ok. Used to something different, that is also ok. "I hate stout beer, it's not real beer because I don't like it and it's different than the bud light I like to drink." Is a similar sort of short sighted statement. That is the point I am trying to make.
I was raised on what some would call a cattle ranch and still raise 100 to 300 cow/ calves today with lots of corn fields surrounding our pastures. Technically corn is a member of the grass family. And believe me since the first day I paid attention, we have battled keeping the cows out of our corn fields once the corn has emerged. Worst period is when the corn is reaching milk stage in mid August and it puts out a sweet smell. I don’t know who forced cows to eat corn but they sure imprinted it in their bovine brain because once they get into a corn field you might as well put them in another pasture.
 

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That post is coherent. I don’t care if you like grass fed, I don’t. Had it in a couple places it seemed to have a stringy texture and the flavor was off. Once it was almost a faintly sour taste is the best way to describe it, that was on an Oklahoma ranch. Had to sit there and tell them it was good as I was choking the stuff down.
I get it you don't like Grass Fed Beef. You don't have to, you are a person that shouldn't like it. Don't like it. All I am saying is that all Grass Finished produced beef is not the same and what you had is not indicative of all grass fed beef. Just as the bottom select pre-packaged crap you get sometimes at the grocery store is not indicative of all corn fed beef. Can you understand that? Geesh.
 

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Generally CF over GF. Feed quality matters for both, and the CF tends to get more 'care' from the farmer in regards to input, hence my statement in the first sentence. However the best steak from either, and its a GF win.
 

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Generally CF over GF. Feed quality matters for both, and the CF tends to get more 'care' from the farmer in regards to input, hence my statement in the first sentence. However the best steak from either, and its a GF win.
I agree that there is a TON of work involved in raising CF. But, raising good GF beef is not really putting calves out in a pasture and coming back 18 months later and cutting them up. If you read about what the grass fed farmers do who produce some of the highest quality GF out there do, there is a lot of grass management and stock analysis care taken. That, combined with the fact that it takes at least twice as long to produce GF, is the main reason why I have gotten pushback from producers in considering GF alternatives. Too much work/care involved when they look into doing it right.
 
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You can get good beef in lots of places. What I really miss on the west coast is quality pork. You just cannot find a good pork chop out here anywhere. And there's no such thing as a fried pork tenderloin. Cured ham and bacon don't count because the smoke and salt does a lot of work. The seafood is great though obviously.

Anyway back to beef - many people are looking for the leanest cuts but the fat is what carries all the flavor.
Order from Betterpork.com You’ll never buy pork in the store again.
 
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