It’s not even about losing to a mid major. That’s a swing that has been taking place for awhile now in CBB. SDSU is a good team I can recognize that. It’s more about how we’re playing than the results for me. There’s no innovation, there’s no bold moves being made in real time, there’s just a lot of blah in the way we play. Prohm seems to have a problem with either he has a great PG or he doesn’t, and that drives everything. TBF to him he lost one early in TH but he’s got another good TH coming in next year.
Would TJ drop everything and take the ISU job if it came open?
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It’s not even about losing to a mid major. That’s a swing that has been taking place for awhile now in CBB. SDSU is a good team I can recognize that. It’s more about how we’re playing than the results for me. There’s no innovation, there’s no bold moves being made in real time, there’s just a lot of blah in the way we play. Prohm seems to have a problem with either he has a great PG or he doesn’t, and that drives everything. TBF to him he lost one early in TH but he’s got another good TH coming in next year.
You don't need to be Kentucky to beat a mid major at home. ISU fans are not asking to be a Final Four team each year, ISU fans simply do not wish to suck, which this program has in years 3-6. 49-51 record for the program during that time with a high point of going 9-9 in Big 12 play.
I don't know much about TJ but is there a point where they're over it and look to other things?
I agree, it's a reason most teams would miss the dance if they can't plug in new all conference players but not a reason to get dominated like we did last night.
How is the outside shooting this bad?
Tourney trips are the expectation in my book. Most of us can accept a down/rebuild year or even two if the team has great prospects. Next year should be make or break for Prohm.
1) we are not firing Steve- can't even if we wanted to. 2) I would love to do better but the next MBB coach at ISU is going to be grossly underpaid compared to market rate. 3) TJ- you need to dig deeper. Yeah- he is 0-5 but the work he is doing in the 0-5 start will prepare him for Marquette or ISU much more than going 5-0 at Murray State or SDSU would do. That is what happens when you take on a rebuild.
Is it too high of expectations to expect us not to frequently lose to ******* mid-majors at Hilton? Prohm should have been canned after last year. This is just more of the same trash basketball.
A list where the salary is less than $1.8 a year. Maybe Scott Nagy at Wright State. But no doubt TJ would be the safest pick.
Who should be responsible for the low expectations?
I don't understand how our 3pt shooting can be that bad vs a less athletic team playing at home.
It's as critical to today's game as rebounding.
Being mostly an NBA fan outside ISU it's almost unwatchable to view a team shoot 2-20 when even a 35% 3pt performance from the opponent nearly guarantees them the win.
Hoping it is still rust and early season anxiety.
Compared to years past under Prohm, we had guys in the gym A TON working on shooting and their game. Harris, JCL, Tre all put in the time and I hope they get rewarded for it
The fact that we shouldn't have high expectations is the reason we need a coaching change. Everyone knew this team would be rough.
It's the fact that it will be the 3rd team in the last 4 years to miss the Dance (and the one that went was a total flop based on their potential) that's got people wound up.
A year like this is fine 1/4 or 2/5 years, at best.
Not true. Pollard wanted TJ. The president demanded someone with experience.
It’s also concerning in a time that TCU and OSU are starting to redevelop and TTU appears to be solidifying their place in the CBB hierarchy. We’re not above being the doormat in this conference for long stretches.
The other thing I worry about is if this year goes like we expect, is we start to see more transfers.
This is about where I’m at. I think SP is here through next year, so I’d like to see marked improvement this year with no major player defections. Then back in the tournament next year.
If we don’t see improvement and miss the dance in 22, it’ll be time.
Our fans mock Webber but that's the kind of experience you hire if hiring for experience.
Prohm had shown an eye for talent and recruiting above his program's place more than he had a ton of coaching experience. It still seems to be the case.
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