Will the BIG10 Reverse Their Decision?

[Clonefan32]

Well, no. See, that way has been well-established and explained for all to see and know. We can't "responsibly resume" anything until we get serious about getting this under control, like, say, the rest of the world.

And it's not about JP putting a pool in his backyard. It's just that JP cares more about the financial picture than about anything else. That's abundantly clear in his public statements when he spends 90% or more of the statement talking money with a throwaway line about balancing with safety, which is just a codeword for "let's talk money, that's my focus."

I understand. But when you have doctors saying you can "responsibly resume"...? All professional sports have resumed, right?

I guess I'm just curious what you think the Big 12 has done. Found some crack doctors that will tell them what they want to hear? Do you really think they aren't relying on actual medical advice?

 

[Statefan10]

Damn it @Statefan10 this is a CF thread the last thing @alarson and the the other clonebros want here is facts

I think you meant coronabro because I, myself, am a clonebro.

 

[alarson]

Well, no. See, that way has been well-established and explained for all to see and know. We can't "responsibly resume" anything until we get serious about getting this under control, like, say, the rest of the world.

And it's not about JP putting a pool in his backyard. It's just that JP cares more about the financial picture than about anything else. That's abundantly clear in his public statements when he spends 90% or more of the statement talking money with a throwaway line about balancing with safety, which is just a codeword for "let's talk money, that's my focus."

This.

Also, the people saying 'responsibly resume' were the same that jumped every gun with regards to reopening, ignoring all guidance on how to slowly do that to limit things getting out of control. So excuse us if we don't take them at their word.

 

[Clonefan32]

If you aren't aware, you're simply too stupid to educate. It's a hard pass from me.

Ahh yes, this was the post I was looking for. Don't provide answers. Just tell me I'm too dumb to understand. Classic.

Gotta love the respectful discourse you can get on here.

Can't answer a question so you just say "Ur dumb" and move on, because you know you don't have an answer.

I'd again ask you, Mayo and Duke seem to be pretty reputable places, are they not?

 

[CycloneErik]

This.

Also, the people saying 'responsibly resume' were the same that jumped every gun with regards to reopening, ignoring all guidance on how to slowly do that to limit things getting out of control. So excuse us if we don't take them at their word.

Every. Single. Time.

 

[CycloneErik]

It's possible to be in the camp that you want to watch football this fall as long as those involved have the best possible care they can get. There are obvious deniers out there, and there are those on the other end of the spectrum that do in fact take it over the top. But focusing on the opposite ends is where people get into trouble and lose focus. You have to be able to look at this from the middle in order to find where the majority of people actually sit.

Nope. We don't have to have a middle ground on pandemic life. That gets people killed.

 

[Cloneon]

I admit I'm struggling with understanding the seriousness of the pandemic and REALLY REALLY wanting to watch college football. But I don't think there is any shame in what the Big 12 is doing right now. They're the only conference that's putting a plan forward while also acknowledging that we don't know how it's going to go. If we have to cancel, we have to cancel. It was worth a shot.

The heart condition issue trotted out by the Big 10 and Pac 12 felt like a cover for their quick decision. Their arrogance led them to believe that the rest of the conferences would quickly follow. I'm not saying the issue isn't real, but the Big 12 medical teams said it's not a new or unknown condition, and the ACC's said something similar.

This is a really complicated issue, but so far, the Big 12 has handled it better than any other conference. That's something new.

We are all physiologically different. And Covid has proven that in spades. But until we can finitely understand those differences, we'll never be in a place of certainty (either way). We can't stop living, but we can 'respect' those whom might be more susceptible. Consequently, I wear a mask to protect those less fortunate. I would hope others, having chosen not to as a freedom of choice can at least respect my position and possibly find it in their hearts to do the same. I, fully, support moving forward with college sports very carefully and having alternative plans in place all the time should things change. I believe this is a fair stance from either perspective.

 

[Statefan10]

Nope. We don't have to have a middle ground on pandemic life. That gets people killed.

If you don't have middle ground on issues, nothing gets done. Literally nothing. It's a tug of war between two sides that won't get their heads out of the sand in order to find common ground.

We can agree to disagree.

 

[BCClone]

Top ACC Medical Advisor Says Football Can Be Played Safely

Dr. Cameron Wolfe expects conference to continue steady march toward playing this year.

www.sportsbusinessdaily.com

The Big 12 had help from a Mayo Genetic Cardiologist and the Kansas Medical Center. ACC has an infectious disease specialist from Duke telling them it's safe to play.

If they're cherry picking, they're sure doing so with some pretty prestigious people / institutions.

Dealt with many hospitals and clinics. I trust Mayo more than any other one out there.

 

[alarson]

If you don't have middle ground on issues, nothing gets done. Literally nothing. It's a tug of war between two sides that won't get their heads out of the sand in order to find common ground.

We can agree to disagree.

This is true for some but all issues. To act like there is a middle ground on all issues is asinine.

If one side says the world is round, and another that the earth is flat, we don't have to take a middle ground with the flat-earthers.

 

[Statefan10]

Dealt with many hospitals and clinics. I trust Mayo more than any other one out there.

It was ranked the best hospital in the nation yet again this year.

 

[JM4CY]

Hey guys just took a little nap thought I would check back in on the thread...

 

[Statefan10]

This is true for some but all issues. To act like there is a middle ground on all issues is asinine.

If one side says the world is round, and another that the earth is flat, we don't have to take a middle ground with the flat-earthers.

For sure for sure. I'm just saying in lots of instances, you get no where because no one gives an inch on either side. And when that happens, you remain stagnant and one side is usually alienated completely. When you compromise, both sides give up something in order to get something. That's the best way in a lot of situations.

 

[kcbob79clone]

If you aren't aware, you're simply too stupid to educate. It's a hard pass from me.

You know @CycloneErik and @alarson and the other coronabros have run out of arguments when all they have left is "stupid - CycloneErik" or "moron - alarson" and others

If you think some are stupid and morons then leave, or at least take a break

 

[ISU4NH]

For now, I'm enjoying seeing the Big 12 driving the conversation along with the SEC. Who'd of thought that just a few years ago when people were saying ISU was headed for the MAC and the Big 12 would become dust in the wind? The situation of course is unfortunate and the health of everyone is more important than football, but to see ISU and the BIG 12 piloting this ship is a site to behold.

We've given ourselves breathing room to make a decision about the fate of the Big 12 season by not starting conference play until the end of September. There could still be a decision to cancel altogether. We'll know if there is a season when we (ISU) kick off on September 26.

Leadership means taking chances and doing things that are risky. I commend Bowlsby and JP for working hard on behalf of the conference and ISU. This is especially satisfying since Bowlsby was a former AD at the U of I. I haven't heard a peep from my HOK buddies. Ah, the silence.

This next comment may get some negative comments but honestly, I'd be fine with Nebraska returning to Big 12...as long as they bring plenty of cash and a heaping helping of humble pie. It would be great to see Fred at Hilton again...what a game that would be.

 

[alarson]

This next comment may get some negative comments but honestly, I'd be fine with Nebraska returning to Big 12...as long as they bring plenty of cash and a heaping helping of humble pie. It would be great to see Fred at Hilton again...what a game that would be.

Hard pass.

 

[kcbob79clone]

I think you meant coronabro because I, myself, am a clonebro.

Damn autocorrect lol

 

[Cy$]

Liability from covid (NCAA banning covid waivers) is a big driver in why the b10 and p12 cancelled

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[kcbob79clone]

I'd again ask you, Mayo and Duke seem to be pretty reputable places, are they not?

Not to the coronabros right Erik

Hey I got coronabros right this time, yeah

 

[Acylum]

Liability from covid (NCAA banning covid waivers) is a big driver in why the b10 and p12 cancelled

Well then they may as well shut down their athletic departments. Because they won’t be playing in 2021 either.