The amount of decisions based on very little or no data at all related to this outbreak has been mind boggling.
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The amount of decisions based on very little or no data at all related to this outbreak has been mind boggling.
Just about everything we are going through right now is unprecedented - not sure if there is a manual on how this works. When was the last time we shut all travel from China? What is right and/or what is constitutional? What is effective and what is a sham? Why am I shut down in Spokane when we've had 300 infections and 20 deaths even when we were in the epicenter? What is federal and what is state? What powers do the feds really have? What are the domains of the states and where are they failing/succeeding? There is some fault on the margins for EVERYONE but there are also some successes and true leadership going on.
That we know of so far. With re-openings we'll see what sorts of new surges occur. Same with other countries.
Tin foil in me thinks the WH using the CDC projections works in their favor for 'see how good we did!?' if it that doesn't happen.
Downplay it, then when that looks bad, overplay it so it looks better later, and pretend history is different.
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We all knew these stories were coming but it doesn’t make it any easier to hear about. Remember you don’t know someone else’s situation.
We all knew these stories were coming but it doesn’t make it any easier to hear about. Remember you don’t know someone else’s situation.
feel free to express that opinion to the Governor, who based her decision to "re-open" these counties based on # of positive tests declining.
Try reading my statement again... Honestly I am surprised there are that many carriers for those diseases but clearly this is a difficult problem that no one has been able to solve. It still means that there are multiple variables that affect not just this virus but all viruses and disease. It's always a combination of factors and should never be attributed to just one thing.
That is a tragic story but if you actually listen to the fathers story linking that to covid 19 and having to stay at home is a stretch in the extreme.
Completely disagree. The kid likely had depression issues regardless but the situation clearly IMO contributed. I think people are going to greatly underestimate the impact of these types of scenarios.
Think about what you posted, even without knowing the testing rates. 108 new cases in 77 counties- less than 1.5 new cases/ county over a time frame we're not even sure of.
This reminds me of just yesterday at Menard 's. There was a lady there (with someone) that very clearly was recovering for some sort of medical "issue". She had no hair except for a very small patch on her head (think current chemo patient). Some people are setting themselves up for failure during this thing. Probably a lot more than "some" actually .
I posted the 5 counties that have doubled their cases in the last 4 days. I believe 42 of the 77 counties say 1 or fewer new positive tests during that period - they would seem to still be justified for easing restrictions.
If there's a different metric to use to justify the partial "re-opening", I'm all ears, but right now positive test cases is all the Governor has presented
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It may have been a contributing factor, but pretty far down the list of contributing factors IMO. No way to say it wouldn't have occurred without this situation. I guess we can agree to disagree. Personally I think its sad when people politicize tragedies like this... and that goes for both sides.
Did she? I've searched a little bit and couldn't find that as an explanation. I don't usually watch the daily press conferences.
The impact resulting from recent regulation changes won't be seen for another week or so.
Just found out my wife's cousin was laid off from Lutheran hospital here in DSM. She is a radiation tech. She's not needed if people are not coming in for any reason besides Covid. Lots of hospital staff likely to be laid off if we don't open things up a bit and allow elective surgeries to be scheduled across the board. 60 minutes had a good segment on this yesterday....hospitals are struggling big time and many are ghost towns right now.
If I recall correctly, she said the 77 counties were picked because they met the WH criteria of 10 days of decreasing number of new cases. Maybe I'm misremembering that.
Some actual, interesting data from the Iowa Veterans Home staff testing. As of April 27...
A. 120 staff members that were symptomatic were tested. Of those 120, 10 tested positive.
B. 481 staff members that were asymptomatic were subsequently tested.
Of those 481, 7 tested positive.
C. These 17 staff members were placed off work for a minimum of 21 days.
D. 4 residents have tested positive as of May 1. The first 2 positives were sent to the DSM Vet Hospital. 1 has already returned to the Veterans Home. The second is expected to return this week.
E. The other 2 resident positives were asymptomatic. These 4 residents were all in the same unit. All other residents in this unit (84) have tested negative.
A. 120 staff members that were symptomatic were tested. Of those 120, 10 tested positive.
B. 481 staff members that were asymptomatic were subsequently tested.
Of those 481, 7 tested positive.
C. These 17 staff members were placed off work for a minimum of 21 days.
D. 4 residents have tested positive as of May 1. The first 2 positives were sent to the DSM Vet Hospital. 1 has already returned to the Veterans Home. The second is expected to return this week.
E. The other 2 resident positives were asymptomatic. These 4 residents were all in the same unit. All other residents in this unit (84) have tested negative.
Agreed - I should have mentioned that. This is the underlying situation in which she chose to ease restrictions in those counties - NOT a result of "opening" them.
I would say regional medical resource availability should play a big role, and how that availability is trending.
That seems like a good example of using testing to trace and contain and outbreak. Good news.
in related news, I saw that worldometers.info started displaying totals for the VA and active military. The VA has 9300 positive cases and 538 deaths. Active military has 7100 cases and 27 deaths.
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