MONDAY MUSINGS: Daydreaming about March

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Saturday's game helped take some of the sting off of Monday's loss to KU and shows how good we can be when everyone is shooting well especially THT. I still can't figure out why he doesn't just go up strong to the hoop given his size. He seems to be doing better as the year goes on but still has a tendency to do the crazy dipsy doodle shot. If he can start hitting that step back 3 around 35-40% of the time he will be almost impossible to stop.
 

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Seems to me THT is typically helping things on defense if the offense isn't going.
 

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Hey @ChrisMWilliams - regarding this line from your story: "The Sweet 16 — Midwest Regional connected to Des Moines — is in Kansas City."

I'm 90% sure that the opening weekend sites are not connected to a particular Regional site. I think that changed a while back when they went to the Pod System. For example, in 2016, half of the teams that played in Des Moines were part of the South Regional and half were part of the East Regional.

I would be very interested to know increases the chance the Cyclones could play in Des Moines. I assume the higher the seed you get the more likely the committee rewards you by putting you closer to home. But the Jan 25 Bracketology on ESPN has Kansas St playing in DSM as a 7 seed and ISU playing in Hartford as a 5 seed. Maybe that's pure chance?

That might be a fun segment for your radio show to get Joe Lunardi or someone like him to come on and explain how we could finally get home court advantage in March!?
 
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Hey @ChrisMWilliams - regarding this line from your story: "The Sweet 16 — Midwest Regional connected to Des Moines — is in Kansas City."

I'm 90% sure that the opening weekend sites are not connected to a particular Regional site. I think that changed a while back when they went to the Pod System. For example, in 2016, half of the teams that played in Des Moines were part of the South Regional and half were part of the East Regional.

I would be very interested to know increases the chance the Cyclones could play in Des Moines. I assume the higher the seed you get the more likely the committee rewards you by putting you closer to home. But the Jan 25 Bracketology on ESPN has Kansas St playing in DSM as a 7 seed and ISU playing in Hartford as a 5 seed. Maybe that's pure chance?

That might be a fun segment for your radio show to get Joe Lunardi or someone like him to come on and explain how we could finally get home court advantage in March!?
The top 16 overall seeds are assigned, in order, to the 8 first weekend sites based on the closest available site. As a result of this process, ISU will need to be a Top 8 overall seed to guarantee themselves a spot in Des Moines. It is also likely that there will be two 2/7/10/15 bracket pods in Des Moines. So if ISU is not a 1 or 2 seed, the only likely way that ISU is in DSM is as a 7 or 10 seed and that will take a lot of lucky factors for that to happen due to bracketing rules.
 
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There is a Sweet 16/Elite 8 in Chicago for the women's tournament. Might it be possible for us to go there too?
 

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And Tulsa is also drive-able for the men's 1st and 2nd rounds. More kool-aid.
 

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The top 16 overall seeds are assigned, in order, to the 8 first weekend sites based on the closest available site. As a result of this process, ISU will need to be a Top 8 overall seed to guarantee themselves a spot in Des Moines. It is also likely that there will be two 2/7/10/15 bracket pods in Des Moines. So if ISU is not a 1 or 2 seed, the only likely way that ISU is in DSM is as a 7 or 10 seed and that will take a lot of lucky factors for that to happen due to bracketing rules.

So wait a minute....you're telling me that 'if' we hypothetically pull a '4 or 5' seed, but Iowa (hypothetically just for discussion sake) is a 7, by your reasoning they would get DM but not us? Whaaaat?
 

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cykadelic2

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So wait a minute....you're telling me that 'if' we hypothetically pull a '4 or 5' seed, but Iowa (hypothetically just for discussion sake) is a 7, by your reasoning they would get DM but not us? Whaaaat?
Yes, that scenario could happen according to the bracketing criteria. If ISU ends up a 4 or 5 seed, they will be playing San Jose, SLC or Hartford.
 

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The top 16 overall seeds are assigned, in order, to the 8 first weekend sites based on the closest available site. As a result of this process, ISU will need to be a Top 8 overall seed to guarantee themselves a spot in Des Moines. It is also likely that there will be two 2/7/10/15 bracket pods in Des Moines. So if ISU is not a 1 or 2 seed, the only likely way that ISU is in DSM is as a 7 or 10 seed and that will take a lot of lucky factors for that to happen due to bracketing rules.

Don't know much about this particular process... why is this the case?
 

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Don't know much about this particular process... why is this the case?
It just comes down to the S-curve. The overall #1 gets placed in the nearest site to their campus. The next #1 seed gets placed in the nearest site to their campus. The next #1 seed gets the nearest (available) site to their campus and so on. In theory the 3rd #1 seed could end up away from the closest site to their campus if it is also the closest site for the first and second #1 seeds on the S-curve. As it stands right now there aren't a lot of projected top 4 seeds that have those western sites as their closest site so those might be what is left over for the 4 seeds.

Just take the projected top 16 from any bracket prediction and start placing them strictly by distance from their campus and see what comes of it. When I last did this the East Coast sites filled up fast (except Hartford) with SLC and San Jose (along with Hartford) left for last.
 

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Don't know much about this particular process... why is this the case?
Assuming the top 16 seeds are as follows, they would be assigned to first weekend sites as follows in priority order and closest available:
1. Tennessee (Columbus OH)
2. Duke (Columbia SC)
3. Virginia (Columbia SC)
4. Michigan (Columbus, OH)
5. Michigan State (Des Moines)
6. Gonzaga (Salt Lake City)
7. North Carolina (Jacksonville)
8. Kentucky (Des Moines)
9. Purdue (Tulsa)
10. Houston (Tulsa)
11. Virginia Tech (Jacksonville)
12. Kansas (Salt Lake City)
13. Louisville (Hartford CT)
14. Wisconsin (Hartford CT)
15. Iowa State (San Jose)
16. Nevada (San Jose)

With two #2 seeds in DSM (Michigan State and Kentucky), the two pods in DSM will be 2/7/10/15 seeds. And if Iowa is a #7 seed and doesn’t play another B10 team in their bracket until the Sweet 16 or Regional Final, they could end up in Kentucky’s pod in DSM.
 

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