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CapnCy

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Tough for both sides and also the truth will never be fully public given privacy, etc.

I will say, though, i know there are rules for "prior relationships" in regard to recruiting, talking, etc. (for instance, current players could still talk to Paul Rhoads, etc).....BUT, that landlord thing certainly could be a compliance issue...I'd assume the Paulson's disclosed and are charging market rate, but NCAA rules are very strict because clearly if rent was $20, that's not market rate.
 

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you ok with a coach pushing your kid and talking to him in that manner?

I have 3 kids and if the coach did as others are saying then yeah I am fine with it. You make this sound like he is a 9 or 10 year old kid. This is an adult, not a kid. In the article it states the staff has asked wrestlers to not show emotions on the mat. However, this sounds as if the kid was doing exactly this.
 

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Some thoughts:

1. We wanted a new coach that was tough. This is what you are going to get. Especially when you hire a bunch of Hawks.

2. It sounds like the shove wasn’t s huge deal, but coaches need to be more aware of that stuff and not do it. It always gets out.

3. Dresser probably should have shut up about the tampering in the media. If there was tampering (and it sure as hell sounds like it) report it quietly. Now they’ll have to let him go with thd paulsons.
 
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I have 3 kids and if the coach did as others are saying then yeah I am fine with it. You make this sound like he is a 9 or 10 year old kid. This is an adult, not a kid. In the article it states the staff has asked wrestlers to not show emotions on the mat. However, this sounds as if the kid was doing exactly this.

No, I didn't make it sound like that at all. That's how you read it. Slow down.

I'm simply saying this, which I believe is fact: there have been other cases at other schools when coaches have put their hands on athletes, whether over 18 or not, and have suffered consequences that you may or may not agree with.

Personally, I don't see the need for ANY coach to put their hands on any athlete at ANY level. I was an athlete in college and I felt the same way then. And, if someone put their hands on my kids, I'd need a VERY good explanation as to why...and I doubt I'd ever be ok with it.

Stop conflating this to something it's not. There's not some weird honor in taking a shove from your coach. I don't get this attitude that if someone's a wrestler or a football player that they should be ok with someone putting their hands on them unnecessarily.

If the kid wasn't doing what he was told, that's reason enough to cut him. If he was engaged with another coach, cut him. It's pretty simple.

To use your logic, I guess the only way to coach some people is to either physically engage with them or use threatening tactics. Is that what you're saying?
 

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From what I personally witnessed , yes.

good luck on ensuring each coach knows when and how much physical force to use. That's my whole point. While this "push" "shove" or whatever it is may have been nothing at all, that it even took place puts the coaches and the university in a bad light. Also, i think it's wrong...but I'm sure my kids will be considered pussies because I'm not ok with them being shoved around. ******* weird how people think.
 
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Well since I seen what happen, yeah I'm ok with Metcalf doing what he did, he did nothing wrong. Were u there? Did u see what happen? Or you just going off previous statements and acting like u know what happened?

well, I'm glad you "seen" what happened. Did he push him?
 
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I know nothing about wrestling program..very little really. But being shoved? I mean come on...

Go look at the tweet OGU football OLman just posted about indoor practice video of him going one on one in a drill..Coaches all time in fball shoving other players in celebration granted. Ever see a FBall coach grab a kid by the pads and say come here?

Pft..i mean if i posted a story of mine 25 years ago entire staff where i was would have been fired on the spot.
 

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No, I didn't make it sound like that at all. That's how you read it. Slow down.

I'm simply saying this, which I believe is fact: there have been other cases at other schools when coaches have put their hands on athletes, whether over 18 or not, and have suffered consequences that you may or may not agree with.

Personally, I don't see the need for ANY coach to put their hands on any athlete at ANY level. I was an athlete in college and I felt the same way then. And, if someone put their hands on my kids, I'd need a VERY good explanation as to why...and I doubt I'd ever be ok with it.

Stop conflating this to something it's not. There's not some weird honor in taking a shove from your coach. I don't get this attitude that if someone's a wrestler or a football player that they should be ok with someone putting their hands on them unnecessarily.

If the kid wasn't doing what he was told, that's reason enough to cut him. If he was engaged with another coach, cut him. It's pretty simple.

To use your logic, I guess the only way to coach some people is to either physically engage with them or use threatening tactics. Is that what you're saying?
Good grief
 

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good luck on ensuring each coach knows when and how much physical force to use. That's my whole point. While this "push" "shove" or whatever it is may have been nothing at all, that it even took place puts the coaches and the university in a bad light. Also, i think it's wrong...but I'm sure my kids will be considered pussies because I'm not ok with them being shoved around. ******* weird how people think.

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Are there any other college sports where the coaches actively practice, drill and compete against the athletes? Its a unique sport that way. Wrestling coaches physically beat up on their athletes, every single day in practice. You can't just tell a wrestling coach to stop being physical with the athletes. Its fundamental to the sport.

Of course there are limits, maybe Metcalf went over that line. We've all seen coaches a parents clearly over the line. I personally think the Metcalf push was pretty minor. It seems like a kid looking for an excuse after fact. But I'm guessing a team of lawyers will conduct an investigation then tell us how horrible an emotional environment a wrestling room is.
 

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Granted, I'm not really in the knowledge on our wrestling team...but hasn't our problem the last few years come from being soft? I'm sure the Iowa wrestlers would laugh this guy out of the gym. Probably best if both parties move on.
 

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Wow! A couple of weeks ago I really liked Storr, Dresser & staff and the Paulson twins. Now I hear A) Storr is a wuss (accuses the coaching staff of abuse) B) Dresser is a whiner (blames previous coaches for his wrestler leaving) C) Metcalf is a typical 'Iowa style' douche bag and D) The Paulsons are cheaters.

I don't know what to believe, I wish I could believe none of the above. I hate it when wrestling, especially ISU wrestling gets bad press. This all really ugly.
 

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Wow! A couple of weeks ago I really liked Storr, Dresser & staff and the Paulson twins. Now I hear A) Storr is a wuss (accuses the coaching staff of abuse) B) Dresser is a whiner (blames previous coaches for his wrestler leaving) C) Metcalf is a typical 'Iowa style' douche bag and D) The Paulsons are cheaters.

I don't know what to believe, I wish I could believe none of the above. I hate it when wrestling, especially ISU wrestling gets bad press. This all really ugly.

I agree. If Storr was an issue, best thing to do was address it with him and decide to go different directions. My entire point is that it shouldn't have come to what it did...and now we have questions surrounding what could have been a simple situation.
 

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IMO, Storr should have stayed quiet. Dresser and co. were not trying to make him look bad. They have said zero negative about him, only about the tampering, which Storr ADMITTED to in his release. He wanted to lessen the allegations against the Paulson's by admitting to the contact? His release didn't go against anything the ISU coaches have said, so him needing to get his story out seems weird, especially considering the fact he has received his release. I could see if he wasn't released and felt trapped, then yes, post your story. But just move on.

On a different note -- how many people in this thread a) played a sport or wrestled and b) saw the incident? I feel like people are viewing this as "Metcalf walked up to him and shoved him in the chest and the kid felt like he was going to get beat up and it was terrible." A coach pushing his athlete towards the back is nothing new or bad, its just part of it. He took a bad loss, was sticking around the mat too long, and a coach moved him along. Simple as that. Seems like his issue isn't with the "shove," but rather just the conflict he was having with the staff already. As someone who wrestled at the Division 1 level, this stuff happens ALL THE TIME, EVERYWHERE.