'Geographic' TV markets is a dying philosophy. The internet is seeing to that. And, in that vein, 'national marketing' is essential to growing name brand. ISU has an enormous alumni base. And, it's very clear their patronage is assured. It also has one of the most dynamic names of which we're seeing some incredible videos being developed. So, what I'm trying to say is expanding the league into different geographical markets should not be for the TV viewership, but rather for the league marketing.
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'Geographic' TV markets is a dying philosophy. The internet is seeing to that. And, in that vein, 'national marketing' is essential to growing name brand. ISU has an enormous alumni base. And, it's very clear their patronage is assured. It also has one of the most dynamic names of which we're seeing some incredible videos being developed. So, what I'm trying to say is expanding the league into different geographical markets should not be for the TV viewership, but rather for the league marketing.
Can someone please give me the Cliffs Notes rundown on why expansion is so necessary? Particularly in respect to a CCG. I thought they shot down that rule back in January?
And why is expansion so great for ISU exactly? Is is purely the idea that we go back to not playing OU and Tex every year?
And why is expansion so great for ISU exactly? Is is purely the idea that we go back to not playing OU and Tex every year?
That article pretty much solidifies my opinion that there is no way the Big 12 expands with a P5 candidate. The biggest proponent of conference expansion has been David Boren and now this article comes out and blasts not only Boren, but de-values the potential expansion candidates, while also confirming that OU was practically out the door in 2010.
The fact that UCF isnt on this list shows the short-sightedness of the big 12. Building a huge alumni base and gets a foothold for conference recruitment into florida.
Colorado State? That state didnt even care about Colorado, and the big 12 lost little when they left. Their little brother CSU wouldnt bring much of anything to the big 12. BYU? Hell no.
Colorado State? That state didnt even care about Colorado, and the big 12 lost little when they left. Their little brother CSU wouldnt bring much of anything to the big 12. BYU? Hell no.
Reading that article, to me it seemed they were more concerned with money and keeping up with the financial TV packages of SEC and Big 10. To me it sounded like OU didn't want to add any schools because there was no gain in overall financial impact to OU.
From a travel perspective:
Ames to Tampa - 1400 miles
Morgantown to Lubbock - 1,450 miles
Morgantown to Fort Collins - 1,500 miles
Storrs to Fort Collins - 1,900 miles
Morgantown to Provo - 1,900 miles
Lubbock to Storrs - 1,950 miles
Provo to Storrs - 2,300
Ames to Tampa - 1400 miles
Morgantown to Lubbock - 1,450 miles
Morgantown to Fort Collins - 1,500 miles
Storrs to Fort Collins - 1,900 miles
Morgantown to Provo - 1,900 miles
Lubbock to Storrs - 1,950 miles
Provo to Storrs - 2,300
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OU will be out of the Big XII at or near the end of the GoR. If there is no expansion they don't have to sign an extension. The Big XII can't keep up with the B1G/SEC financially and the OU brass isn't going to let their football team fall behind.
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At the expansion meetings the schools were all shown a study, from my understanding, of how a CCG would affect the chances of making the CFP. Odds went from 62% without a CCG to over 75% with a CCG. So not having a CCG puts the Big 12 at a competitive disadvantage to the other conferences. CFP is what Oklahoma wants. And Texas as well, if and when they get better again. So having a CCG is something that is wanted. The study also concluded that those odds included having 2 six team divisions. Having only 8 Conference games increased the odds over having 9 Conference games. Playing the Round Robin schedule in football was hurting the league as far as the CFP was concerned. Other Conferences having a CCG meant their best teams were playing 13 games instead of 12.
It would be silly to play a CCG with everyone already playing a Round Robin. The odds of making the CFP go down when that happens. So you want 2 six team divisions and a CCG.
Leaving the conference has worked well for Nebraska. Every team that has left the Big 12 has gotten worse in the major sports.
JP ought to say the hell with it and back door a deal with KU, BYU and Boise to join the Pac 12.
The first conference to 16 wins.
The first conference to 16 wins.
I don't know, Missouri has been doing much better than I ever thought they would in the SEC. Texas A&M also lead all universities in total revenue in 2014-2015
http://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/finances/
And f--- Nebraska
Doesn't matter. If OU isn't getting what UNL & Mizzou are getting there will be groundswell to find a greener pasture...regardless of what that means on the field.
You have not told us the potential schools for expansion that you consider viable. The GOR makes it pretty much impossible unless you are going to poach SEC teams.
Your solution is to have the band play while the Titanic is sinking.
There aren't any. That's the point. The conference will not survive. That's my entire point. It doesn't make financial sense to add unless something crazy happens where strong current p5 members go free agent.
The Big 8 tried to be proactive, but actually made a deal with the devil. Enjoy the league until the GOR expires and hope for the best.
My mind the best is for the NCAA to go NFL and collectively market the TV packages and split revenue, but that's blue sky
I suspect BYU is outside the list. UCONN, Cincinnati and Tulane on the inside. Cannot see any way in the world that Memphis is in the conversation.
The prudent strategy is to expand the conference. And when the Conference expands then the GOR is extended. Your strategy is doomsday for Iowa State. How long have you been a Hawkeye fan?
