FIRE PAUL RHOADS!!

[cyrocksmypants]

I haven't read the whole thread, but it's my understanding that Gordon Ramsey will be our next head coach. Does that sum everything up accurately?

 

[cyhiphopp]

I haven't read the whole thread, but it's my understanding that Gordon Ramsey will be our next head coach. Does that sum everything up accurately?

"You guys block like old people ****!"

 

[bosco]

"You guys block like old people ****!"

Wheezy and saggy. sounds like the 7 dwarves instead.

 

[SerenityNow]

I got on to CF today thinking "man, I never see any posts about whether Paul Rhoads should keep his job". Can't believe this isn't talked about more or more pointless threads aren't made.

Thank you for showing me all is right in the world.





Really hope I don't need a here.

 

[Jer]

What you're seeing is the short-term effect of peaks and valley's in sentiment. A big win takes the edge off some people and a big loss pushes some closer to the edge. I've said it since the first post I ever wrote on CF, we're a very bipolar fan-base and there is always a way to rationalize or support either side of the cliff.

It's just like the annual pre-season hype train that both the media and the fans jump on with every possible rationalization to support why this will be the year things are different.... even when the only thing that really changed is the page on the calendar.

 

[Yankee14]

I've been reading a lot of posts in support of Paul Rhoads sticking around for another year, and I am saddened by how little we expect of our football team and coaches. I'm sick of the same chorus after another terrible football year of "Wait till next year, we will be better". That is the same thing I heard last year when Paul Rhoads should have been fired. I'm tired of being the fan base that expects so little of our football team that we can't be let down. I mean 3 wins... 3 wins?! We keep talking about how good the teams we lost to are, but we don't talk about how bad the teams we beat are. Everyone is over the moon about beating a 3-5 Texas team. I feel like I'm taking crazy pills. Would we expect so little from our basketball team? Would we constantly bemoan how difficult it is to recruit players to Ames is? No, we have had success, and now we expect something better. We should want the same thing for football. It reminds me a of a Kitchen Nightmares episode where the owner of a failing business is so scared to change (even though he is losing money hand over fist) because he doesn't want to alienate his current customers. I want to try something new. People ask me, "Who would you want instead?" My answer is, I don't care. Anyone else. This didn't work, next one up. Because what we are currently doing isn't working. I'm ready for a change.

You can't compare basketball and football. Georges Niang has helped turn us into a national power. Allen Lazard has not. That doesn't mean that Lazard sucks, cuz he doesn't. It's much more difficult to get over the hump in football and create a winning tradition than it is in basketball.

I like Rhoads and want him to succeed. But the guy has been dealt a bad hand with injuries the past two seasons, along with knuckleheads like Rodney Coe and David Irving among others. Those guys weren't misses. They just couldn't handle the responsibilities of being a student-athlete and not act like morons. Is that on the coaches when they vet these recruits? Absolutely. Is it harder with coaching turnover, losing guys like Tom Herman, Bill Bleil, and Chris Ash? Absolutely. It's always going to be very difficult for Iowa State football. But at least we have a guy that likes Iowa State, unlike other coaches in the past (IE: Chizik). And let's not forget that he's trying, I admired him for cutting Mangino loose. If things aren't working, he's not afraid to shake it up and makes changes mid-season.

Seth Greenberg said a week or so ago in his preview of ISU basketball that the fan base has started to develop some unrealistic expectations. Even though I disagree with Greenberg on ISU basketball prospects for 15/16, I think the unrealistic expectations could probably be said about football.

 

[cyrocksmypants]

What you're seeing is the short-term effect of peaks and valley's in sentiment. A big win takes the edge off some people and a big loss pushes some closer to the edge. I've said it since the first post I ever wrote on CF, we're a very bipolar fan-base and there is always a way to rationalize or support either side of the cliff.

It's just like the annual pre-season hype train that both the media and the fans jump on with every possible rationalization to support why this will be the year things are different.... even when the only thing that really changed is the page on the calendar.

Why don't you just go start a firepaulrhoads.com website, Jeremy, Geeze!!!!1!!

 

[CycloneErik]

You can't compare basketball and football. Georges Niang has helped turn us into a national power. Allen Lazard has not. That doesn't mean that Lazard sucks, cuz he doesn't. It's much more difficult to get over the hump in football and create a winning tradition than it is in basketball.

I like Rhoads and want him to succeed. But the guy has been dealt a bad hand with injuries the past two seasons, along with knuckleheads like Rodney Coe and David Irving among others. Those guys weren't misses. They just couldn't handle the responsibilities of being a student-athlete and not act like morons. Is that on the coaches when they vet these recruits? Absolutely. Is it harder with coaching turnover, losing guys like Tom Herman, Bill Bleil, and Chris Ash? Absolutely. It's always going to be very difficult for Iowa State football. But at least we have a guy that likes Iowa State, unlike other coaches in the past (IE: Chizik). And let's not forget that he's trying, I admired him for cutting Mangino loose. If things aren't working, he's not afraid to shake it up and makes changes mid-season.

Seth Greenberg said a week or so ago in his preview of ISU basketball that the fan base has started to develop some unrealistic expectations. Even though I disagree with Greenberg on ISU basketball prospects for 15/16, I think the unrealistic expectations could probably be said about football.

The unrealistic expectations of being 6-6 and maybe bumping to 8 wins once in a while?
Since they're the straw man that's inevitably coming, nobody is asking to be Alabama. People just don't want to suck. That shouldn't be considered unrealistic.

 

[19210]

My name isn't Jamie Pollard. I wanted Rhoads gone last year.

Whatever Jamie, you silly goose! :skeptical:

 

[Yankee14]

The unrealistic expectations of being 6-6 and maybe bumping to 8 wins once in a while?
Since they're the straw man that's inevitably coming, nobody is asking to be Alabama. People just don't want to suck. That shouldn't be considered unrealistic.

Yeah I get that no one's asking to be Alabama. But we hear it all the time from the coaching staff: the development timeline is a long one because of the kind of kid they have to recruit. Plus, it's not like we can get by every other year now and play nobody like the Hawkeyes are currently doing.

 

[CycloneErik]

Yeah I get that no one's asking to be Alabama. But we hear it all the time from the coaching staff: the development timeline is a long one because of the kind of kid they have to recruit. Plus, it's not like we can get by every other year now and play nobody like the Hawkeyes are currently doing.

Half the Big 12 is pretty poor this year, and turns out that way every year. It's not as rough as people want to believe.

 

[awd4cy]

Yeah I get that no one's asking to be Alabama. But we hear it all the time from the coaching staff: the development timeline is a long one because of the kind of kid they have to recruit. Plus, it's not like we can get by every other year now and play nobody like the Hawkeyes are currently doing.

We play a lot of nobody's. Give it time. Our SOS isn't going to be as high as it says right now. The Big 12 really isn't that great this year and idk how people watching these games think it is. Bowl season will be an eye opener again for some about our conference.

 

[cyatheart]

I've been reading a lot of posts in support of Paul Rhoads sticking around for another year, and I am saddened by how little we expect of our football team and coaches. I'm sick of the same chorus after another terrible football year of "Wait till next year, we will be better". That is the same thing I heard last year when Paul Rhoads should have been fired. I'm tired of being the fan base that expects so little of our football team that we can't be let down. I mean 3 wins... 3 wins?! We keep talking about how good the teams we lost to are, but we don't talk about how bad the teams we beat are. Everyone is over the moon about beating a 3-5 Texas team. I feel like I'm taking crazy pills. Would we expect so little from our basketball team? Would we constantly bemoan how difficult it is to recruit players to Ames is? No, we have had success, and now we expect something better. We should want the same thing for football. It reminds me a of a Kitchen Nightmares episode where the owner of a failing business is so scared to change (even though he is losing money hand over fist) because he doesn't want to alienate his current customers. I want to try something new. People ask me, "Who would you want instead?" My answer is, I don't care. Anyone else. This didn't work, next one up. Because what we are currently doing isn't working. I'm ready for a change.

You lost all credibility when you compared success in football to basketball. It's not even close to the same, in fact it couldn't be more different. Fine to think CPR should go, but basketball success isn't the reason why.

 

[Yankee14]

We play a lot of nobody's. Give it time. Our SOS isn't going to be as high as it says right now. The Big 12 really isn't that great this year and idk how people watching these games think it is. Bowl season will be an eye opener again for some about our conference.

Yeah I'm sure the Big12 will fall flat during bowl season again. But whether we play nobody's or not, we spent half the season with an OC that wanted to do things his way and not the way the rest of the staff wanted to do. With that kind of disfunction JP isn't going to make a rash decision to fire Rhoads. Even if the offense has sucked since 2010.

 

[Havs]

I think this was a fantastic first post. Good work.

#FirePaul

 

[19clone91]

Beat me to it

 

[norcalcy]

Just to refresh everyone's memory, here's an excerpt of an article quoting Pollard's boss in December 2014. Not saying it won't happen, but it will take lots of spin from the Pres to explain how a 3 or 4 win season gets him another year.

The Cyclone football team finished the 2014 season with just two wins. Leath says coach Paul Rhoads understands “it’s a business” and a turn-around is expected next season.
“I’d like to get our football program where it needs to be, which is representative of a first-class university. We’re not there. The last two seasons were clearly disappointing,” Leath says. “As to Paul’s future, I can’t predict that. He knows, (ISU athletics director Jamie Pollard) knows that we want a first-class, winning program and that’s where we’ve got to be and hopefully he’s the guy to get us there, but either way, we’ve got to get there.”
Leath says you don’t want to win a way that you can’t be proud of and he’s proud of Rhoads and how the football players are doing in their classes, but winning on the football field is the ultimate goal. Leath made his comments Friday on Iowa Public Television’s “Iowa Press” program.

 

[UNIGuy4Cy]

If Iowa's success this year doesn't get Pollard looking elsewhere with our program he should be ushered out as well

 

[CyDude16]

I've accepted this as truth. Whether it plays out that way remains to be seen, but since he got the amazing win against a hapless Texas team, he'll be back. Really wish our AD would take the football program more seriously.

Yeah, cause our ad definitely doesn't take the football program seriously.

 

[Rogue52]

4.5 million reasons why he will be back next season.

Also, if Leath has to hold Pollard's hand through these things then he should be fired too.