They will have played a tougher schedule, but as of now they haven't. And Iowa beat the #21 team by 30 on their field while TCU hasn't beaten anyone ranked.
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They will have played a tougher schedule, but as of now they haven't. And Iowa beat the #21 team by 30 on their field while TCU hasn't beaten anyone ranked.
I was talking about Ohio State. Ohio State has played a crap schedule. People dog on TCU's schedule and hype up OSU, it's nonsensical. You can't go nuts on SOS and have Ohio State in the top 4. If it's all about TCU's schedule to date put them at 3rd and drop Ohio State down to 7th or 8th where purely wins against SOS should have them.
If you want to make it all about SOS you should have Ohio State clearly behind TCU and Iowa and TCU and Iowa almost exactly tied because they have nearly identical SOS.
I wasn't talking about Iowa, but since you bring it up. Iowa's schedule is going to end up in the 70s heading into the B10 CCG. So you'll look like a moron dogging TCU's 50ish schedule that will end up a 20s/30s schedule when your team is in the 70s. Best to just shut it.
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Except no one is denying that this will ultimately be the case. The only argument being made is that perhaps Iowa should be higher and other teams should be lower based on SOS as of right now. No one has said Baylor's schedule will be bad by the end of the year.
I personally don't have a big beef with TCU being where they are. But Baylor has played, by far, the weakest schedule of all the contenders thus far.
Here's my thing about Baylor. Yes their schedule has been embarrassingly easy so far, but they have absolutely dominated it. Their worst game was against us and they still won by 18.
I'm with you though in that I wish they would stop changing the narrative when explaining different teams.
What is being denied is the committee's right to do whatever they want, including projecting out SOS over the course of the entire season and using it to formulate the current rankings.
It's similar to last year. Baylor actually may still have a bad schedule even after they play the 3 ranked teams they have coming up. TCU will have a very good SOS, better than last year, yet national media lie about it or are just ignorant about it. TCU played the same SOS as Ohio State last year (before OSU got their two playoff games to boost it) and will play a more difficult SOS than Ohio State this year even if Ohio State tacks on a B10CCG.
Don't have a beef with TCU being where they are? They are getting screwed! They were far and away at least the #2 team last year, haven't lost a game, and are freaking 8th with tougher SOS than Ohio State. This year and last year combined, TCU has the least blemished record in all of college football. They have one loss to a top 10 team in the last two seasons, Ohio State can't even claim that as their one loss was to an average team.
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We threw them a curve ball by completely changing our strategy mid game. It's not like they weren't dominating us when they were playing the team they had on film. Baylor's biggest problem is they sometimes get complacent after the big lead is built, a better team than ISU (like Mich State last year) would have beaten Baylor in our game after we down by 3-4 scores and they let us back in.
I dont know how Iowa's players do it. NFL players only have to play one Super Bowl a year if they're lucky.
Iowa plays 12.
I misread that.
I'm not dogging TCU's schedule to date. Iowa's SOS is a tad bit stronger than TCU's and OSU's right now, and Iowa stomped a ranked team in their house while TCU and OSU haven't beaten a ranked team, but that doesn't mean I think Iowa should be ranked higher than them right now. I don't. As long as we're all undefeated and have comparable SOS, I think those other teams are just better than Iowa. I never said if undefeated team A has a better SOS than undefeated team B then team A automatically should be ranked higher. Don't know where you got that. Before the rankings were announced my prediction for the top 4 was: 1. Clemson 2. LSU 3. Ohio St. 4. TCU
The only SOS right now that's an absolute joke is Baylor at 104, but clearly Iowa shouldn't be ranked ahead of them because Baylor is a better team, is undefeated, and is winning much more convincingly.
SOS is part of the equation, that's it. Big 12 will obviously win that battle at the end of the day and I agree that Iowa's will start falling mightily from here on out. Will be interesting to see how far. If Northwestern, Wisconsin, and Pitt win consistently the rest of the season that could be 3 ranked teams Iowa will have beaten.
Iowa's most impressive game was blowing out NW even though Northwestern is labeled a Superbowl game annually. There's a mythos of Fitz basing his season on the Iowa game and a lifetime of hatred...seriously.
If Iowa had gone 20-1 the last two seasons with mostly dominant blowout wins, their one loss was to a top ten team...I think they'd have a right to be pretty upset at only being 8th or 9th. The situations aren't even comparable. This ranking is putting Iowa where they probably should be until some other teams slip and a slap in the face to TCU.
SOS won't matter, they lie and manipulate around it when they want. They said TCU had bad SOS last year when they were basically identical to Ohio State. TCU will end up around 25 SOS (good) and Baylor will end up around 65 (not great, similar to where Iowa will end up, better good teams, worse bad teams)...they'll dog both their schedules even the Big 12 as a whole has the #1 in conference SOS almost every season.
7-1 with a strength of schedule of 14. Only loss to the #1 team on the road by 2. Wins over Navy(7-1), USC (5-3) and at Temple (7-1).
Bama has wins over aTm and Wisconsin. Ole Miss loss wasn't that bad of a loss. Ole Miss could still win the SEC.
Bama will probably lose to LSU anyway and be eliminated. Notre Dame still has to play at Stanford (#10).
What have Baylor or TCU accomplished this season?
I think Baylor, TCU and Okie State get in if they're undefeated. Committee is setting Notre Dame up to be TCU'd (last season).
Imagine if Notre Dame wins out.
"Oh, sorry Notre Dame, too bad you're not in a conference. Looks like you're gonna slip out of the top 4 after championship weekend."
It's all politics.
Who cares? Florida State lost to Georgia Tech, who lost to Virginia. I guess Virginia is better than Florida State?
Was Kansas better than Iowa last year? They curb stomped ISU, who won in Kinnick.
Care to elaborate as to why they would/should ignore those wins?
Why? How does expanding the playoff make it less of a beauty contest, or address unbalances schedules and leagues across the landscape?
Good question. All four on the right side of your table. Baylor wouldn't score near their average against our D, especially with their QB out. If he proves decent I will reevaluate, but right now you have to expect a serious dropoff from them. MSU is not nearly as good as the last couple years and Iowa matches up with them very well. TCU does not impress me this year. They were nearly beaten by Minnesota who is God-awful. So I'd say we have a good chance to win. Florida, similar to Baylor, has lost their QB. That would be a really good game with great defense on both sides.
One team not in your table that I don't think Iowa could beat is Oklahoma. It doesn't matter, but since you effectively asked about an objective power ranking, my best effort has Iowa #7.
1) That's your opinion.
2) Last year doesn't matter. At least it shouldn't.
Not a mythos. It's fact. He talks about it himself and all NU players report the same. He thinks Iowa intentionally broke his leg to cost his chance to play in the Rose Bowl.
In the rain, no less.
Exactly. With no pre-defined path to the championship, it's still a popularity contest. No different than the pre-BCS days. It's just now there's a team of individuals deciding on four teams. At least those chose four get to play it out.
Notre Dame has one of the best resume's of anyone right now. I would have had them at #3 in the first playoff projections, behind #1 Clemson and #2 LSU and ahead of #4 Ohio St. ND will have chances to improve it too. If TCU or Baylor win out their resume might be almost as good as ND's when the season ends, but probably not since it started so low. So TCU or Baylor have to win out and pray all the injuries catch up to ND and they lose one more.
