List of potential replacements should Fred Hoiberg leave
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And I could give you several examples of assistant replacements who were failures. Including one at our very own school.
I really don't know what you are arguing or advocating for here? That Otz is less risky than Rice or Prohm or Underwood? Or Hornacek?
I assume it's Otz. Fred was in the mix to leave before TJ agreed to come back. No reason to come here unless assurances were made. His goal is to be a HC - everything I've seen points to a done deal.
The comments from Jeremy and Chris about Jamie being cheap worry me. I really don't like the idea of handing the program off to a guy with no head coaching experience, but if we conduct a legitimate coaching search and end up with TJ so be it and I would be okay with it. But if Jamie doesn't at least make an honest effort to try to get somebody with a better resume it would be extraordinarily stupid. Please don't screw this up Jamie.
Nope, don't agree. JP knows that he needs to hire someone that's a bigger splash. No offense to Otz, but he's not that right now in my opinion.
I don't know what Stormin is advocating, but I've been beating the drum that every single candidate out there is risking. To say Hornacek is clearly a better option than Otz for ISU is an opinion, not a fact. To say Otz is a better option than Hornacek for ISU is an opinion, not a fact. To say that ISU should not hire someone who has never been a head coach is an opinion, not a fact.
For the 497th time, multiple people who know TJ directly have said this isn't the case. If it was already done, why would JP be talking to a search firm?
Why do we need a search firm? Iowa State has to be one of the top 5 openings this year and there is a limited pool of candidates. Why pay a firm to give you names you already know?
So Fred should have never been hired in the first place??? Fred had absolutely ZERO coaching experience. ZERO. Not even as an assistant.
I sure as hell hope that JP isn't hiring someone to make a big splash. What if this is his thought process?
"Well, Underwood is clearly the best coach I could hire and would do the best things for Iowa State. However, Hornacek is a good coach too. Not as good as Underwood and wouldn't do as well as Underwood would do, but the Hornacek hire would be a much bigger splash, so I'm going with him."
Do you realize how idiotic that sounds?
The firm makes the contact. That is how it is done. Then there can be no charges of meddling with a coach under contract.
You are right. Lots of opinions and very little facts.
But I can't take anyone seriously if they actually think Otz would be a better hire than Hornacek. Hiring a sitting NBA coach (who was runner up for the NBA Coach of the Year last year) vs. an assistant college coach with no experience isn't even debatable. You could have the opinion that TJ would have more success in the long run than Hornacek but there is no way someone could say an Otz hire, on the surface, is better than a Hornacek hire and say it with a straight face.
I hope you realize that the program is in a much, much, MUCH different place when Fred was hired vs. now.
I'm interested in seeing the kind of contract that would be offered. I'd be disappointed if we offered the new guy a better contract than we had for Fred, because that would mean we were not paying Fred as much as we had the capacity to pay him.
At the same time I'd be disappointed if we didn't get a coach with head coaching experience. And able coaches with head coaching experience will cost us more than Fred did.
Since JP tends to pay a new coach less than what he was paying the departing coach, I wouldn't be surprised if, as others have said, he sees this as a money saving opportunity.
At the same time I'd be disappointed if we didn't get a coach with head coaching experience. And able coaches with head coaching experience will cost us more than Fred did.
Since JP tends to pay a new coach less than what he was paying the departing coach, I wouldn't be surprised if, as others have said, he sees this as a money saving opportunity.
If you are talking about CPR, then you are talking about a coach who left many years prior who had served for 7 years as the DC at Pitt, and then another year as DC at Auburn before taking the HC job at Iowa State.
Not sure you will admit it, but did you look at the other candidates that applied for the HC job at Iowa State when Chizik left in 2008?
Are we even in a remotely similar place as a program??? NO
We were in the cellar in 2010. 1 tournament appearance in a decade. We were desperate.
Contrast with today...we've made the tournament four straight years. We have a top ten team returning. As that Gary Parrish article pointed out, the situation we have for our next coach is incredibly rare.
Now you are talking about football? JFC, what is going on here...
I was clearly talking about Wayne Morgan.
