Your strategies to improve game-flow

[coolerifyoudid]

My problem with a straight run-off would be something like this...the trailing team is pressing for a 10-second violation and commits a legit foul after playing 7-8 seconds of good defense. It seems harsh to penalize them another 5 seconds. Maybe some kind of deal where at least 10 seconds comes off the clock...if the foul is committed after three seconds, then run off another seven. The trailing team does have an opportunity for turnover via the 10-second violation, so 10 seconds seems like a reasonable number. The rule could be suspended if there are under 10 seconds left.

Yeah, that's why I mentioned that I could find a fault in nearly every idea I came up with. There are so many scenarios at the end of games to take into account.

A 7 point lead at the one minute mark could have a completely different feel from one game to the next. If the trailing team was lighting it up and on a roll, that 7 points doesn't feel safe. Whereas if the game was tied at 1:30 and the trailing team just had its leading scorer foul out, that's a completely different situation with the exact same deficit.

I think anything involving "run off" will turn into disaster, there's too many timing/counts etc. already.

Speaking of "snails pace" wait till you see these bozos run down every single 30 count. scoring will go down even more.

The run-off I was referring to was a simple run-off of time after a foul was called and the clock was already stopped. I'd just like to see something prevent those down-10-with-20-seconds-to-go-foul-fests and was thinking some kind of time penalty might be better than points.

 

[Rural]

A lot of this seems to be trying to tweak something that already has too many screwy rules.

 

[KnappShack]

More tshirt cannons and Appleshuffles and nobody cares about gameflow

I'd go an additional step and put the players in helmets and shoulder pads. Take down the nets and make the ball easier to throw. Change the end line to an end zone.

 

[jbhtexas]

I think anything involving "run off" will turn into disaster, there's too many timing/counts etc. already.

Probably true. For me personally, the fouling has gotten out of control. It's an undesirable aspect of the game (or it wouldn't be penalized in the first place), yet coaches use it to gain advantage. As such, I generally favor any rule changes that would drop the hammer on fouling.

Another variant would be something like:

After the ___ foul committed during in the last ___ minutes of the game, the team that is fouled gets [one|two] free shots and the ball. Allows some fouling for "strategy" (ugh), but caps it at some point...

 

[alarson]

Cut into some of the strategies where a foul benefits the fouling team. Maybe have a triple bonus where after the 13th foul the other team gets 2 shots and the ball or 1 shot and the option of possession.

 

[Rolling Clones]

-Only have 2 refs working a game instead of 3
-NBA jump ball rule/no TO's while on the ground
-1 foot restriction line to make inbounding the ball easier
-Some type of change to the foul bonus, I'm not sure if lowering the fouls to bonus or increasing would be better but -I'm sure someone could figure it out
-Under 2 minutes you get to choose if you want FT's or SOB if you get fouled and you are in the double bonus

Yes please.

 

[Clonefan94]

I would like to see intentional fouls called more often at the end of games when teams are just fouling to foul. Also, on those called intentional fouls, 15 seconds run off the clock. I understand when you are down a few points late and out of timeouts, but some of these games get a little crazy when teams are down by double digits and still fouling every possession. Needs to be a bigger penalty for guys just grabbing at the jersey, just to stop the clock. What game was it of ours this year where the other team started fouling us every time down t he floor with over 4 minutes left?

And has been mentioned, with 2 minutes left, you get to choose if you want the ball or to shoot FTs.

 

[HFCS]

-Only have 2 refs working a game instead of 3
-NBA jump ball rule/no TO's while on the ground
-1 foot restriction line to make inbounding the ball easier
-Some type of change to the foul bonus, I'm not sure if lowering the fouls to bonus or increasing would be better but -I'm sure someone could figure it out
-Under 2 minutes you get to choose if you want FT's or SOB if you get fouled and you are in the double bonus

One and ones create some points in games that make fouling more appealing. Maybe 8 foul limit with no one and one.

 

[HFCS]

Challenge only reviews are the dumbest thing ever. If the refs screw up 10 times, they should be able to correct it 10 times (and then be shown the door). Isn't the goal to get it right?

I have mixed feelings about replay in basketball in general. So many close reviewable plays are caused by incorrectly called fouls that cannot be changed. If there's a horrible call that leads to a close out of bounds it seems silly they can't reverse the horrible foul call. I see nba games where horrible no calls lead to other fouls and then they review the other foul to see if it was a clear path. So clear path fouls can be reviewed in the nba but not horrible calls in general.

Seeing if a shot is off or foot is on 3 point line is great. Any other replay just seems like arbitrary bs when they can't reverse or change obviously wrong fouls.

 

[VeloClone]

One and ones create some points in games that make fouling more appealing. Maybe 8 foul limit with no one and one.

I remember Tim Floyd using that 1 and 1 gap to his advantage. In one game his dedicated fouler came in and played less than a minute and accumulated 3 fouls. If I remember correctly it worked, too. On those three possessions they only gave up a point or maybe two. That's not to mention how frustrated their poor foul shooting big was getting.

 

[cyclonespiker33]

Get rid of the 3 pt shot and shot clock.

If teams score within the first 5 secs of the possession then it's worth 5pts.

score in the next 5 secs 4pts.

In the next 5 secs 3pts,

In the next 10 secs 2pts

Then finally worth only 1pt after 25 secs of the possession.

What happens with free throws?

 

[ruxCYtable]

Allow TV timeouts after made baskets to try to avoid having them real close to each other.

I've been saying this for years. Some will argue it might provide the other team an opportunity to set up their press. Then do what the NBA does and give them the ball at half court after a media timeout.

I also think they should cut media timeouts from 4 to 3 each half but that'll never happen.

 

[nautical12]

I remember Tim Floyd using that 1 and 1 gap to his advantage. In one game his dedicated fouler came in and played less than a minute and accumulated 3 fouls. If I remember correctly it worked, too. On those three possessions they only gave up a point or maybe two. That's not to mention how frustrated their poor foul shooting big was getting.

Reminds me of what Jordan Railey did when he was here.

 

[NickTheGreat]

Most every foul in the last 30 seconds (or last 5 minutes for some teams) is intentional. Call it as such. Shots and the ball.

Down with limited time left? Press. Tighten the coverage. Something, basketball related.

**This wouldn't really work, as I don't want more subjectivity in officiating.

 

[1UNI2ISU]

Any TO within :45 of the scheduled media timeout becomes the media timeout.

Move the 'floating media timeout' (first team called TO of the second half) to the first half.

Only get 3 TOs per game. Only 2 carry over to the 2nd half (1 Full, 1 :30)

No live ball timeouts (i.e. to save possession)

Widen the lane to the NBA width and go to the 4 foot restricted area.

Leave the shot clock at :35

 

[Cyclones_R_GR8]

Get rid of the 3 pt shot and shot clock.

If teams score within the first 5 secs of the possession then it's worth 5pts.

score in the next 5 secs 4pts.

In the next 5 secs 3pts,

In the next 10 secs 2pts

Then finally worth only 1pt after 25 secs of the possession.

They would be stopping the clock every other possession to check if the basket was made in 4.9 or 5.1 seconds etc

 

[heitclone]

Changing the FT situation at the end of games is an awful idea, you guys want games to just end at the 2 minute mark? Should a team give up? Taking advantage of FT shooting is no different than taking advantage of size, speed, shooting, dribbling etc. Making those fouls intentional or getting to choose to take the ball instead would take away from competition, who wants to watch a game where you are not allowed to try to win? Where one team isn't allowed to exploit another teams weaknesses? the NBA already botched their intentional foul rules, they didn't do it to help the game, they did it to hide the fact that their league has tossed fundamentals out the window.

 

[IAmNotTheMayor]

I don't watch much NBA, but it seems the NBA game has better flow. Let's not over-complicate things, and just adopt NBA rules whole cloth. Other than that, make refs accountable to the NCAA to improve consistency.

 

[1UNI2ISU]

The NBA has better flow because every team is full of elite offensive players.

College basketball will never be the NBA.

 

[jbhtexas]

Changing the FT situation at the end of games is an awful idea, you guys want games to just end at the 2 minute mark? Should a team give up? Taking advantage of FT shooting is no different than taking advantage of size, speed, shooting, dribbling etc. Making those fouls intentional or getting to choose to take the ball instead would take away from competition, who wants to watch a game where you are not allowed to try to win? Where one team isn't allowed to exploit another teams weaknesses? the NBA already botched their intentional foul rules, they didn't do it to help the game, they did it to hide the fact that their league has tossed fundamentals out the window.

Fouls aren't a desired part of basketball. That's why they are penalized in the first place. Dribbling and shooting are desired aspects of the game. Strategy that utilizes an undesirable action shouldn't be rewarded, and if the rules allow such strategies to be successful, then the rules need to be changed so that said strategies don't work.

If a team can't win the game by using the desired actions of the game (i.e. shooting, dribbling, passing, and playing legal defense), then too bad; they deserve to lose because they weren't as good at the fundamental desired aspects of the game as their opponent was. They shouldn't be afforded additional opportunities to win by breaking the rules of the game (i.e. committing fouls).