Refs are dumb. Out of all of the things that have been said in this thread most of it comes down to a major improvement would be refs just not being dumb and sucking less. They don't even have to get everything right, just improve like 25% and it would help a lot.
Your strategies to improve game-flow
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Refs are dumb. Out of all of the things that have been said in this thread most of it comes down to a major improvement would be refs just not being dumb and sucking less. They don't even have to get everything right, just improve like 25% and it would help a lot.
Just curious. What does everyone think about trying the defensive 3 seconds like the NBA has? It would eliminate a lot of zone being played and slowing down possesions while allowing more driving lanes.
Here goes:
1. Shorten the shot clock to 30 or 28 seconds. Move it closer to the NBA's 24 second clock.
2. Widen the lane similar to the NBA and International play.
3. Institute a defensive 3 second call similar to the NBA, essentially getting the defense moving and actually guarding a player versus a spot.
4. Move to 4, 10 minute quarters instead of 2, 20 minute halves and utilize the High School and NBA approach to bonus after five fouls within a quarter.
Matt Woodley shared these ideas on KXNO last week and I really liked his thoughts and reasoning for doing it.
1. Shorten the shot clock to 30 or 28 seconds. Move it closer to the NBA's 24 second clock.
2. Widen the lane similar to the NBA and International play.
3. Institute a defensive 3 second call similar to the NBA, essentially getting the defense moving and actually guarding a player versus a spot.
4. Move to 4, 10 minute quarters instead of 2, 20 minute halves and utilize the High School and NBA approach to bonus after five fouls within a quarter.
Matt Woodley shared these ideas on KXNO last week and I really liked his thoughts and reasoning for doing it.
+1.
That is the most popular conversation, word for word, we have in our house from Dec-March.
Another thing, get rid of the unofficial timeout when a player fouls out. Coaches don't need a minute to figure out who they are going to sub in. Give them 10 seconds to get a player to the table from the time the call is given to the bench ref and the teams can not come to the sideline.
A suggestion I haven't seen yet is for the refs to warn, then penalize the teams that take too long coming out of time outs. Rules state that if they haven't cleared the floor by the second horn, the refs give them a warning. If they do it again, the refs can do multiple things,based on if it is a media game or not. Those "things" range from starting the game without the offending team being ready (my favorite) to giving the offenders a technical and the non-offenders two free throws. What they usually do is ignore it.
Seems like we usually are waiting on the other team. This would speed things up over the course of a game.
Seems like we usually are waiting on the other team. This would speed things up over the course of a game.
I am all for speeding up the game, but I don't have quite as much problem with giving the coach a little time in that situation. When a coach loses a player, especially a key player, they may have to have a few seconds to communicate a relatively major change in strategy.
Most suggestions revolve around reducing timeouts, reducing free throw attempts, and otherwise avoiding the hack-a-player strategy. I also agree these areas need the most attention.
One alternative strategy, perhaps due to nostalgia, is MTV's Rock N' Jock basketball show from the 90's. Essentially during the last 2 minutes, there would be 2 hoops lowered above the standard hoop worth 25 and 50 points. Therefore, teams would skip fouling to play defense to later test their luck hitting one of these shots.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9JVVQTPymw (see 2:45 mark for first 25 point shot)
One alternative strategy, perhaps due to nostalgia, is MTV's Rock N' Jock basketball show from the 90's. Essentially during the last 2 minutes, there would be 2 hoops lowered above the standard hoop worth 25 and 50 points. Therefore, teams would skip fouling to play defense to later test their luck hitting one of these shots.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9JVVQTPymw (see 2:45 mark for first 25 point shot)
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Earlier I said 8 foul limit with no one and one, but this is clearly better, also ditches the one and one. Moves two TV timeouts to better spots where they fit the flow of the game. Allows coaches to develop better substitution patterns to rest heavy minutes players the most effectively (NBA fans have memorized when their team's star players sit out most games and it's because of quarter breaks).
I'm pretty sure Hoiberg has mentioned this in interviews too.
Most suggestions revolve around reducing timeouts, reducing free throw attempts, and otherwise avoiding the hack-a-player strategy. I also agree these areas need the most attention.
One alternative strategy, perhaps due to nostalgia, is MTV's Rock N' Jock basketball show from the 90's. Essentially during the last 2 minutes, there would be 2 hoops lowered above the standard hoop worth 25 and 50 points. Therefore, teams would skip fouling to play defense to later test their luck hitting one of these shots.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9JVVQTPymw (see 2:45 mark for first 25 point shot)
That is awesome. Bill Walton imploring his team to makes some 10 pointers. Sponsored by game.com, the worst game system of the decade.
I'm pretty much open to whatever but am seemingly one of the few against lowering the shot clock. A key reason I love college basketball compared to NBA is the strategy and wide-variety of styles of play across the country. I don't mind someone running a slow-it-down style offense if that's what they think works for them.
1. 28 Second shot clock
2. 8 Seconds to get across half court
3. If you flop you can get assessed a technical if it was indeed a flop and is clear on replay
4. Widen lane and the circle under the hoop.
5. Remove offensive goaltending. Whats the point of punishing someone for being in position and timing a ball correctly?
2. 8 Seconds to get across half court
3. If you flop you can get assessed a technical if it was indeed a flop and is clear on replay
4. Widen lane and the circle under the hoop.
5. Remove offensive goaltending. Whats the point of punishing someone for being in position and timing a ball correctly?
Good luck with that. How many times do you see a team like WVU get warned for a delay of game for touching balls after makes and then how many times do the refs actually go on to enforce the technical? Once again, it goes back to poor officiating being the major problem with game flow.
They just NEVER follow up on the warning.
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