That would be great if that was enough for us to beat the likes of Texas Tech and UAB.
It's on Fred
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That would be great if that was enough for us to beat the likes of Texas Tech and UAB.
I am not sure why some people can't grasp that they played some bad games. It sucks but it is that simple.
I don't enjoy the spoiled brats that some ISU fans have become. I miss the fresh all beef that we all were last season.
For starters, not everybody is a spoiled brat. Most of us just don't get why the team wasn't able to live up to their expectations. I personally would have rather watched Fred's team from year one play than this team. They played hard consistently and after that season they didn't have a plethora of games where they simply didn't show up.
My comment wasn't really meant to be taken that seriously, but go ahead and make it into a big debate if you want. Lots if things went wrong for us to lose that game, and rebounding was definitely one of them. And it wasn't just the balls not bouncing our way. Our guys were standing around waiting for the ball to come to them rather than box out. That's not me saying that, that's a lot of people who know a hell of a lot more about bball than me or you saying that.
It's almost like we didn't exceed our predicted finish in the league and win a SECOND CONSECUTIVE conf. tourney title. Winning one conf. tourney a decade is unprecedented success for ISU, winning two in a row is absolutely astronomical success for us. Just no perspective whatsoever and the bold portion of your post pretty much confirms that.
I was thrilled about that, just not other portions of the season. When a team is good, I find an interesting measure of their success to be the number of good losses. This team didn't have a lot of good losses.
I don't really know why I keep responding to you, so I'm just going to stop now.
Well ****, maybe Fred will try to lose more often to good teams to passify your twisted metric of success.
Maryland loss... The Terps shoot 44% from the field and 42% from three. They beat ISU on the boards 39-38 with 10 offensive boards.
South Carolina loss... The Gamecocks shoot 46% from the field and 20% from three (only took 10 in the game). They beat ISU on the boards 42-34 with 11 offensive boards.
Texas Tech loss... The Red Raiders shoot 41.5% from the field and 46% from three. They tied ISU on the boards 35-35 with 10 offensive boards.
Oklahoma loss... The Sooners shoot 51% from the field and 48% from three. They beat ISU on the boards 38-36 with 14 offensive boards.
Kansas loss... The Jayhawks shoot 51% from the field and 48% from three. ISU beat them on the boards 41-38 but gave up 12 offensive boards.
Baylor loss #1... The Bears shoot 43% from the field and 39% from three. They beat ISU on the boards 44-32 with 19 offensive boards.
Baylor loss #2... The Bears shoot 46% from the field and 54% from three. ISU beat them on the boards 32-31 but gave up 10 offensive boards.
K-State loss... The Wildcats shoot 48% from the field and 26% from three. ISU beat them on the boards 34-32 but gave up 10 offensive boards.
UAB loss... The Blazers shoot 35% from the field and 17% from three. They beat ISU on the boards 52-37 with 19 offensive boards.
The same pattern follows. ISU either allowed these teams to light it up from the field or they got crushed on the boards or both.
Field goal % on the season...
119. Kansas
122. Maryland
142. Oklahoma
165. Baylor
169. K-State
210. UAB
296. Texas Tech
306. South Carolina
Offensive efficiency...
44. Baylor
72. Kansas
81. Maryland
98. Oklahoma
203. UAB
229. K-State
241. South Carolina
293. Texas Tech
It isn't like these were some of the best offensive teams in the country either....
Plethora
pleth·o·raˈpleTHərə/
noun
- 1.
a large or excessive amount of (something).
So not "showing up" to what, 3 games (South Carolina, Texas Tech, UAB) is a plethora? ****** man, I understand being disappointed but saying you'd rather watch a team that went 16-16, lost by 30 on numerous occasions, and had zero chance of making any postseason play than a team that was ranked in the top 25 THE ENTIRE SEASON and won the conference tournament? Wow. I think you're exaggerating a little here.
I think the issue is that the expectations were so high to start the season, and we completely **** the bed in the NCAA tournament. Thus, we tend to look back unfavorably at the season and focus on the negative aspects. However, I understand both positions.
My main reason for responding is that you bring up an interesting point about the historical perspective of the ISU basketball program. I spent a little time in this forum arguing that exact point with regard to football because some folks on here had this pie in the sky perspective that we should consistently win 7-8 games in football every year with the right coach. Thus, maybe it is a little unfair to Hoiberg and the team to expect absolute improvement every year. There may hiccup years like this year where we fail to live up to expectations in the NCAA tournament.
I can only hope that we also account for historical perspective when we analyze the football team and coach, because it is much harder to maintain a level of success with our historical position in football (much worse than bball), along with an inability of one or two players to have a really substantial impact in terms of Ws and Ls as compared with bball.
It isn't that some fans have become spoiled brats. Some fans that watched the UAB meltdown in the NCAA Tournament are trying to understand how an epic fail of that proportion was possible. Let's just be glad that ISU has passionate fans that actually care about the program.
you can try and understand without acting like a spoiled brat. I'd trade in some of our so called passionate fans because I think they hurt iowa state more than help. They certainly make my enjoyment go away.
