Cincinnati and Memphis to the Big 12?

[Die4Cy]

Agree. A Big 12 championship game wouldn't have mattered one bit. It would have meant that Baylor would have played KSU again. Big deal. They wanted Ohio State in, that's the truth.

I'm convinced now that we should just make a mega merger with the ACC. The other conferences want to liquidate both the Big 12 and the ACC, so why not just combine and make the best conference by FAR and screw everyone.

And why would the ACC want to do this? Their dog **** champion scraped by all year in a soft league, and, being undefeated, got into the top 4 on that alone. Do you think they want to add the likelihood of playing several OU and TCUs and Baylors to the odds on that?

Better chance of merging with the B1G into a 24 team mega league. At least they know they need the recruiting access more than anything else. The net result is they water down our league by poaching Texas home grown recruits and wreck the whole dang thing.

 

[Wesley]

Looking like B12 will be hiring couple teams this offseason. Basically, one B12 team has to go undefeated to get in.

 

[Palmer]

And why would the ACC want to do this? Their dog **** champion scraped by all year in a soft league, and, being undefeated, got into the top 4 on that alone. Do you think they want to add the likelihood of playing several OU and TCUs and Baylors to the odds on that?

Better chance of merging with the B1G into a 24 team mega league. At least they know they need the recruiting access more than anything else. The net result is they water down our league by poaching Texas home grown recruits and wreck the whole dang thing.

Better chance of the Big12 being liquidated and ISU being left out in the cold.

 

[HFCS]

My takes.

1. I would have added Louisville when they were begging to be added or I would have added them instead of TCU or WVU. Not sure if that would have put us at 10 or 11 but I always would have added them.

2. The $$$/ESPN was going to screw us whether we had a title game or not.

3. Work toward some sort of movement with the ACC, SEC or Big Ten that merger/cooperation would be more likely than poaching.

This is not a good development at all for conf stability. It's basically proof that the Big Ten can pull whatever strings it wants. The people on this site pretending OSU has a better resume than TCU are frankly idiots...but adding a team like Memphis would only make matters worse. Even adding BYU or Cincy might make our numbers undesirable for some sort of merger or agreement.

 

[Die4Cy]

Better chance of the Big12 being liquidated and ISU being left out in the cold.

You get the point. Nothing in it for the ACC to merge with us. Makes basketball and football tougher for their teams. ACC football isn't exactly a murderer's row, so going 13-0 is less a problem for their champion, and by doing so they are a lock. Their basketball teams don't want all the extra losses, and neither do we, honestly.

Big 12 needs somebody to go 12-0 to be in the final four. Just like the ACC. And it is going to be harder in our league than theirs.

Big 12 is ****ed.

 

[HFCS]

You get the point. Nothing in it for the ACC to merge with us.

Not the case. Big 12/ACC network would be the #1 $$$ conference network. ACC or B12 on their own won't touch BTN or SECN.

A conference that totally dominates the East coast, huge south east presence, huge southern presence, #1 Texas presence, significant midwest presence and includes brands like Texas, Oklahoma, Florida State, Duke and North Carolina will be the #1 money generating network.

Money is why ESPN is in the business of lying about the Big Ten not sucking at football. Flip the ****** on the money.

 

[clonedude]

ESPN is doing their best to ruin college football.

It's evident they would love nothing more than to get down to about 4 power conferences and just screw all the "little guys" out there. It's all about $$$$ and nothing else. It will ruin college football completely, but ESPN will rake in the dough.

 

[ljm4cy]

Fox has not provided good competition to ESPN. Without a competitor, ESPN's near monopoly will become more powerful.

 

[bigdaddykane]

So the AAC has a 11 team, take cincy and get byu who is Independent

 

[deadeyededric]

Playoff system is flawed IMO. How can you have a system that doesn't automatically include all power 5 champions? It needs to be those 5 conference champions and 3 at-large. More games means more money for them anyway!

 

[SyracuseCyclone]

You get the point. Nothing in it for the ACC to merge with us. Makes basketball and football tougher for their teams. ACC football isn't exactly a murderer's row, so going 13-0 is less a problem for their champion, and by doing so they are a lock. Their basketball teams don't want all the extra losses, and neither do we, honestly.

Big 12 needs somebody to go 12-0 to be in the final four. Just like the ACC. And it is going to be harder in our league than theirs.

Big 12 is ****ed.

If Baylor scheduled a good ranked team out of conference they get in and the Big 12 looks stronger. Them not beating another BCS school killed the Big 12. Both Baylor and TCU's toughest games were @ WVU that isn't a good thing. OSU ran the table on their crap conference at least.

I think a 1 loss Miss St team gets in over OSU if they beat Ole Miss.



Memphis and Cinci are perfect geographically. You basically now get 2 teams for what the Big 12 should have had in Louisville. But the Big 12 needs 2 more teams. Good new road trips.


Again its a great deal because you are basically getting Lousville but instead of faces losses to the geniuses that are Petrino and Pitino you get Memphis and Cinci.


I think both Baylor and TCU getting snubbed makes the snubbing worse than just one of them losing out to a 1 loss OSU team.

 

[CysRage]

I'm sure someone asked this already but is that deal from the FedEx CEO still available if a P5 conference takes Memphis? A few years ago the FedEx CEO said that FedEx would donate a bunch of money to the P5 conference that takes Memphis.

 

[Stormin]

If Baylor scheduled a good ranked team out of conference they get in and the Big 12 looks stronger. Them not beating another BCS school killed the Big 12. Both Baylor and TCU's toughest games were @ WVU that isn't a good thing. OSU ran the table on their crap conference at least.

I think a 1 loss Miss St team gets in over OSU if they beat Ole Miss.



Memphis and Cinci are perfect geographically. You basically now get 2 teams for what the Big 12 should have had in Louisville. But the Big 12 needs 2 more teams. Good new road trips.


Again its a great deal because you are basically getting Lousville but instead of faces losses to the geniuses that are Petrino and Pitino you get Memphis and Cinci.


I think both Baylor and TCU getting snubbed makes the snubbing worse than just one of them losing out to a 1 loss OSU team.

That completely contradicts what the Playoff Committee said about "Championships" being a requirement. A second SEC team should NEVER get into the Final Four because it is all about "Championships".

 

[SEIowaCyclone]

I would like to see Cincinnatti and Memphis join the Big 12. As noted above they are good locations and good road trips. I would see them as joining the North division with ISU when the Big 12 instigates a championship game.

 

[tsirnickesqcy]

BYU and Colorado State are most like the rest of the schools in the conference. We don't need commuter schools.

 

[1UNI2ISU]

It won't be North/South. There is no way Texas and Oklahoma would allow themselves to be in the same division with each other and TCU/Baylor, while K-State dominates an inferior division...

 

[SEIowaCyclone]

It would be interesting. Texas and Oklahoma were in the South in the Big 12 of old. Here is the breakdown I would like to see...North: ISU, KU, KSU, Memphis, W.V. and Cincy; South: TCU, Baylor, OU, OK ST., Texas, Texas Tech.

 

[CrossCyed]

It won't be North/South. There is no way Texas and Oklahoma would allow themselves to be in the same division with each other and TCU/Baylor, while K-State dominates an inferior division...

There's a better chance for both to get into the playoff if they are in the same division.

 

[SECyclone]

I'm sure someone asked this already but is that deal from the FedEx CEO still available if a P5 conference takes Memphis? A few years ago the FedEx CEO said that FedEx would donate a bunch of money to the P5 conference that takes Memphis.

In the ESPN Radio article they said Fred Smith has "obviously opened his checkbook to help the process", but they could be blowing smoke.

 

[SEIowaCyclone]

BYU and Colorado State are most like the rest of the schools in the conference. We don't need commuter schools.

How about Wyoming and Colorado State?