Martin could end out proving me wrong...but as of now, he's coached one season, and underachieved one season (pending they don't make a run to the elite 8 or anything)...my biggest beef with him (besides the fact that they've lost a LOT of games they had no business losing) is that he landed the job for one reason, and one reason only, and it had NOTHING to do with his coaching resume or knowledge of the game...not to mention, he's responsible for possibly the biggest scandal in the history of Florida High School Basketball.
So is Frank Martin still the worst coach ever?
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Come again? Coach of the year? Right
K State basically won a home game against a very mediocre USC team. K State has more talent than them as well. 2 players? Pullen is a great guard as well.
Martin had the best player in the country, a freak in Walker. Really solid role players and almost missed out on the tourney. How is he a good coach? Please explain
K State basically won a home game against a very mediocre USC team. K State has more talent than them as well. 2 players? Pullen is a great guard as well.
Martin had the best player in the country, a freak in Walker. Really solid role players and almost missed out on the tourney. How is he a good coach? Please explain
The fact that you called USC a very mediocre team really takes away any credibility you may otherwise have had. How is a team who beat UCLA on the Bruins' home floor very mediocre. USC has just as much talent as Kansas State with O.J. Mayo and Taj Gibson, Davon Jefferson and their other players.
How is he a bad coach? Please explain.
Martin had the best player in the country, a freak in Walker. Really solid role players and almost missed out on the tourney. How is he a good coach? Please explain
The fact that you called USC a very mediocre team really takes away any credibility you may otherwise have had. How is a team who beat UCLA on the Bruins' home floor very mediocre. USC has just as much talent as Kansas State with O.J. Mayo and Taj Gibson, Davon Jefferson and their other players.
How is he a bad coach? Please explain.
I am surprised KSU won the game, but I can't say it was because Frank Martin is a better coach than Tim Floyd. It was one game.
He was far from the coach of the year in the Big XII
Same as McDermott, I will judge the body of work after a couple more years.
He was far from the coach of the year in the Big XII
Same as McDermott, I will judge the body of work after a couple more years.
The thing that I noticed tonite with k-state is how hard they played. I really thought that Timmy Floyd would devise some plan to take Walker and Beasley out of there games....not the case, props to Martin.
If he was our coach many of you would be saying that since it was his first year he gets a pass, and he did a great job of helping to bring in these recruits, they have a lot of young players, we still finished 3rd in the conference, and now he's hitting his stride as a coach.....hey, if you're going to apologize and forgive any and everything in our program, then maybe you shouldn't automatically rip another coach cause he's not ours.
Also, if I fell into a position that I might not have been qualified for at that moment, but felt I could grow into, I'm pretty sure I would take advantage of the situation and would have a hard time seeing people rip me for doing so.......some of you need to put your jealousy pills away and just enjoy the tournament. rant out.
If he was our coach many of you would be saying that since it was his first year he gets a pass, and he did a great job of helping to bring in these recruits, they have a lot of young players, we still finished 3rd in the conference, and now he's hitting his stride as a coach.....hey, if you're going to apologize and forgive any and everything in our program, then maybe you shouldn't automatically rip another coach cause he's not ours.
Also, if I fell into a position that I might not have been qualified for at that moment, but felt I could grow into, I'm pretty sure I would take advantage of the situation and would have a hard time seeing people rip me for doing so.......some of you need to put your jealousy pills away and just enjoy the tournament. rant out.
It's really not as easy as "roll the ball out there and win games" even with a player like Beasley. Walker is a complete head case and you've got to keep him and Beasley focused on winning games not impressing scouts. Pullen has some talent but he's still a freshman and the rest of their guards weren't much.
My point is that it's way too early to judge him either way and I'll just say that he did better than I thought he would this year. You don't get a team to rebound like they do by accident.
My point is that it's way too early to judge him either way and I'll just say that he did better than I thought he would this year. You don't get a team to rebound like they do by accident.
What was USC record? 21-12. Mediocre. They lost to Mercer.
Majo is not as good as Beasly and the other two are not as talented as Beasley. K State has way more size which was proven tonight by the rebounds. They also have better role players.
For K State to have the season that they did, with the players that they have makes Martin anything but coach of the year
Majo is not as good as Beasly and the other two are not as talented as Beasley. K State has way more size which was proven tonight by the rebounds. They also have better role players.
For K State to have the season that they did, with the players that they have makes Martin anything but coach of the year
At times it looks like he can coach at other times he struggles. The talent has helped him win games, the talent of 2 players has made other players on the look good too. I think we all know Floyd is the better coach even though he lost tonight. I think he gets a bad rap is the other coaches in the Big 12 have such better resumes than him and have done something to get their jobs. I think he is in over his head but give him 4 years and we will see then. Its hard to like the guy he cheated as a HS coach, he coached with Huggins, he coaches at KSU, and he used Beasley to help him get a job.
KSU was seeded too low and USC was too high. How they did these 2 seeds only the NCAA will know.
I guess you have pretty high standards to call a team with 21 wins mediocre. I guess it must take at least 25 wins to be halfway decent for you, huh?
OK, I haven't been up to date reading about the career of Frank Martin. What is this that you speak of?????
and he used Beasley to help him get a job
How DARE he have the audacity to take the advantage of a good situation by being in the right place at the right time!!!???!!! What a horrible, corrupt man he is!
How DARE he have the audacity to take the advantage of a good situation by being in the right place at the right time!!!???!!! What a horrible, corrupt man he is!
Martin gets no credit for coaching and pushing Beasley, Walker, et al to advance from great high school to great college players? Remember, this team is very young. They also have beaten two teams, KU and USC, who have more "talent" than they do. Martin gets no credit for that?
Their defensive intensity, plus their rebounding and blocking out, signals to me a team well-schooled on the fundamentals. The entire team plays within themselves - that's a reflection on Martin.
BTW, the most heralded freshman coming in wasn't Beasley - it was Mayo, who's had a "disappointing" season according to the announcers tonight. Maybe Beasley had the advantage in who was coaching him.
Their defensive intensity, plus their rebounding and blocking out, signals to me a team well-schooled on the fundamentals. The entire team plays within themselves - that's a reflection on Martin.
BTW, the most heralded freshman coming in wasn't Beasley - it was Mayo, who's had a "disappointing" season according to the announcers tonight. Maybe Beasley had the advantage in who was coaching him.
This makes no sense at all. Mayo was the one that got all the hype coming into the year and USC will have just as many, if not more NBA players than K-State will.
K-State lost 11 games, 8 of them to tournament teams. Both teams started off in the top 20 and both finished with the same # of losses.
I have to say that I agree with your post. Next year in his third year as head coach, if Gmac gets us to a third place finish in the BIG12 and we have 21 wins AND we beat a higher seeded team in THE NCAA tournament, we'll all be so giddy we'll be peeing our pants. And we're raking this guy over the coals because he "isn't a good coach". Sounds a little ******** to me brotha's....
The last year Morgan coached he had one heck of a guard court in Tinsley and Blalock and since he didn't coach and run the show like he should have, that whole season about did me in. Martin is showing faults as a first year coach, but I'd say he's keeping whose ever players they are pretty close to the nest. Give him a break.
You can tell K-State is coached well by how they manage the game on both ends of the floor. If they weren't coached well, they would looking like ISU did when Wayne was coach. No discipline.
There is discipline on that K-State team and that is a direct reflection of Martin.
I HATE K-State and I think Martin is SLEEZE, but I can also see that he has had a positive impact on the way K-State plays. Some of you need to take your blinders off.
There is discipline on that K-State team and that is a direct reflection of Martin.
I HATE K-State and I think Martin is SLEEZE, but I can also see that he has had a positive impact on the way K-State plays. Some of you need to take your blinders off.
Pullen, Walker, and Beasley have one thing in common. They are freshman. Nothing is easy in college basketball with freshman, I don't care how good they are. Look at us with Craig Brackins. CB was a 5 star recruit and we saw first hand the struggles he went through. Winning 10 conference games and advancing in the NCAA tourney with 3 freshman leading you is a nice accomplishment from a new coach. Frank Martin isn't Roy Williams or anything but he's certainly not horrible. Time will tell but he's off to a nice start.
New Kansas State Coach Frank Martin's Unethical History - FanHouse - AOL Sports BlogOK, I haven't been up to date reading about the career of Frank Martin. What is this that you speak of?????
Why not build your own resume to get a job? He got the job partly because of his rel with Beasley. He used the HS kid's resume to help him get a job.
