CR Gazette Letter to Editor: "Foul disparity helped ISU beat UI" (THREAD BUMP)

CyFan61

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Below is an actual letter that the Cedar Rapids Gazette chose to print in today's edition of their paper as well as make available online.

I am curious if Mr. Burke wrote a similar letter following Iowa's close win over Nebraska-Omaha, when UNO was whistled for 30 fouls to Iowa's 15.

I am also glad to see that the important issues of Eastern Iowa are being discussed in that region's most major newspaper.

Here is the letter:

Two excellent Iowa basketball teams (Iowa State and the University of Iowa) met and played at Ames Hilton Coliseum on Dec. 13. It was a tossup in who might win.

From my perspective, it wasn’t that Iowa State won the game, but the University of Iowa lost the game. I believe there was one big factor why the University of Iowa lost — fouls called on the behalf of each team were way out of proportion. Iowa State had 36 foul shots vs. the University of Iowa’s 21 foul shots.

One could look at this and see Iowa State earned 23 points vs. the University of Iowa earning 14. Had there been a close balance in “calls” going into the final minutes, the University of Iowa may have been more than 5 points ahead with a little over a minute to play.

You cannot play the game over, but I believe this was a big factor in the University of Iowa’s loss. Coach Fran McCaffrey might have thought it wouldn’t do our team any good bringing this to the attention of the referees at this point in time.

David H. Burke

Cedar Rapids


Foul disparity helped ISU beat UI | TheGazette
 

isudvm

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What an Idiot.
 

AdamJGray

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Fouls
Iowa 15
Notre Dame 22

Free Throws
Iowa 29
Notre Dame 19

Iowa wins by 5.

Nobody complains…..

edit….someone should tell the writer that Iowa would have shot more free throws than 21 if they could make the front ends.
 

Wesley

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Let's go back to the ISU-UI football game and do what ifs. Rehash of the bball game will not change the score.
 

CYCLNST8

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:rolleyes:

Apparently he missed the Aaron White dunk show. The Cyclones made a conscience effort to not make stupid fouls for obvious reasons, while Team DEPTH decided to contest EVERY shot and take their chances putting Iowa State at the charity stripe. Their plan backfired in the end. It's not rocket science.
 

BuffettClone

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Yet he fails to notice or at least mention that ISU let a lot of uncontested layups and dunks down low because they were trying to avoid fouls and Iowa was aggressively defending the lane which helps in disparity of fouls just by the teams' strategies
 

Rabbuk

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This letter is better than the 2000 letters from bible bangers they usually print. Gazette really sucks.
 

Stewo

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I love when people complain about particular details of the game. Fouls are part of the game of basketball. It's not a new concept that was established 15 minutes before tip-off of the ISU-iowa game. It all falls back on the coaching. Fran didn't have as good of a game plan as Fred. ISU won because Fred outcoached Fran. End of story.
 

DreamyCy

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One team goes hard to the basket and draws fouls while on defense is selective on when to go after blocked shots. The other team is passive going to the basket and has multiple people trying to block every shot that goes up. I think everyone knows which team is which.
 

CycloneErik

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Omaha. That should be enough.

And the stop fouling thing.


It also could be that Fran brought this to the ref's attention, but forgot to tell his guys to adjust at all. Oh, well. Something they can talk about while watching us in the big boy tournament.
 

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This is the same "newspaper" that waited until almost noon to post online that we had won the Diamond Head Classic. How much work is it to copy and paste an AP article?
 

Die4Cy

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Hok fail.
 

CYEATHAWK

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Fouls
Iowa 15
Notre Dame 22

Free Throws
Iowa 29
Notre Dame 19

Iowa wins by 5.

Nobody complains…..

edit….someone should tell the writer that Iowa would have shot more free throws than 21 if they could make the front ends.


Fouls:
Nebraska-Omaha 30
Iowa 15

Free throws:
Nebraska-Omaha 11-16
Iowa 38-49

Iowa wins by 8.

One could look at this as Iowa earning 38 points and Neb-Omaha earning 11. Had there been a balance in "calls" going into the final minute, Neb-Omaha may have been up double digits with a little more than a minute to play.
 

clonedude

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Just another clueless Iowa basketball fan that doesn't understand the game.

As I've said in other threads regarding this, if Iowa fans really want to use the logic that the team that goes to the FT line less due to a disparity in fouls is getting screwed by the refs and actually deserved to win the game, then Iowa's record right now would be more like 2-11 instead of 11-2.

Iowa has been the beneficiary of being called for less fouls and going to the FT line more than their opponents in something like every game except for two this year. So using their logic, if not for the refs "favoring" Iowa in 9 of their 11 games this year, they would be 2-11 instead of 11-2. So they should be thrilled that the refs are "favoring" them so often.

And I would encourage this writer to go back and watch the replay of the entire Iowa-ISU game and look at how many wide open layups and dunks that ISU basically gave Iowa in order to stay out of foul trouble versus how the Iowa players choose to challenge every single ISU drive to the hoop. That was a choice in strategy by Iowa, and it was a very good one IMO. It took us out of our offensive rhythm all night and cost us a LOT of points by missed FT's versus getting easy layups instead.

The basketball IQ of anyone arguing this point has to be extremely low. But that's what I would expect from an Iowa fan, that typically can't even tell you the names of Iowa's starting lineup.
 
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CyLoboClone

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Isn't our style of shooting wide open threes from kicked-out drives to the bucket responsible for the high volume foul calls?

Phog.net was chock full of the stupid argument last year.
 

Dryburn

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It is hard to believe that someone would actually write a letter to the editor about that......but then it is Iowa.
 

CyArob

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Doesn't little brother know that the game happened 2 weeks ago? Get over it.
 

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