Yep. Anything is possible. As far as Doc Sadler is concerned he was at Kansas as Director of Operations before he came to ISU and there was never any controversy in his past from what I know. IMO he did pretty good at Nebraska and at UTEP before that. And there is no doubt that Fred is the face of the ISU basketball program.
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Yep. Anything is possible. As far as Doc Sadler is concerned he was at Kansas as Director of Operations before he came to ISU and there was never any controversy in his past from what I know. IMO he did pretty good at Nebraska and at UTEP before that. And there is no doubt that Fred is the face of the ISU basketball program.
Is there a question of who the face of the football team is. I really don't think it is possible for someone to outshine Rhoads. If you are worried about it being a distraction then you are the ones that are creating it and a simple way to not let it affect the team is to simply not make him available. There may still be attention to him but it won't affect the team unless someone has to big of an ego that they get hurt by what the media is spouting off about. Mangino for a few years and someone such as Sage coming in as an apprentice and position coach.
IMO the risk outweighs the reward. I think there are candidates just as good or better than Mangino. And they don't carry the risk. As far as Sage is concerned, if Sage wants a job he needs to say that he actually wants it rather than just be lukewarm about it.
Sage has never struck me as a very public person. In the media and public he may be lukewarm about it, but we don't know how he really feels. My guess is privately he really wants it and Iowa State knows that, but in the public he is lukewarm to minimize the sting of a former player not getting something he really wants. I think that would also set up a possibility for a later date move to Iowa State.
Agreed. And, as we have heard now, CFH was talking to JP for sometime, privately. I know Sage is welcome at the football complex and is there often. You know, as well as I, that if he has interest, it has been shared with appropriate people and they've provided fair feedback. Nothing we'd see in the public setting, however.
I completely agree. Mangino becomes a show and would be under a microscope with his actions. Plus you bring him back to life to go back to Kansas in the next two years. I'd leave him buried, and go with a younger candidate with no baggage. (Plus consider the food bills)
I'm going to go with - he's only been there one year (this year). He took 3 years off from coaching after leaving KU. Mainly to support his wife, who was going through cancer treatment, and spend time with his grand-kids, as he felt he neglected his own kids for the sake of his career.
But hey, don't let silly little facts get in the way of trashing a fellow human being. Carry on.
Not trashing him at all. Just feel that his past boorish behavior make him a risk I don't think is worth taking. I hope he has changed. Good for him and wish him luck. Larry Eustachy has changed as well. But I still don't think we would be wise ever offering him the HC job or an Assistant job at ISU. Far too many good OC candidates out there that we could get that don't have any baggage at all. CPR knows that. Don't see a Mangino hire happening.
If a Mangino hire doesn't happen, it has nothing to do with his "boorish behaviors". you're really being a woman about this whole thing
When you are trying to close the deal on recruits you need to make your program better, do you really want to have to spend part of the time convincing them and their family what a changed man your offensive coordinator is?
His reputation is what it is.
His reputation is what it is.
| Thu | 29 | Dayton | MyYTV/WKBN 570 AM | W, 28-10 | |
| September | |||||
| Sat | 7 | Morehead State | MyYTV (TD)/WKBN 570 AM | W, 67-13 | |
| Sat | 14 | at Michigan State | Big Ten Network/570 WKBN | L, 55-17 | |
| Sat | 21 | Duquesne | MyYTV (TD)/WKBN 570 AM | W, 59-17 | |
| Sat | 28 | at Southern Illinois * | WBCB TV/ESPN3.com/570 WKBN AM | W, 28-27 | |
| October | |||||
| Sat | 5 | at Indiana State * | ESPN3/WBCB TV/570 WKBN AM | W, 35-24 | |
| Sat | 12 | Illinois State * | ESPN3.com/MyYTV (TD)/570 WKBN | W, 59-21 | |
| Sat | 19 | Western Illinois * | ESPN3.com/MyYTV (TD)/570 WKBN | W, 24-14 | |
| November | |||||
| Sat | 2 | at South Dakota * | WBCB TV/ESPN3.com/570 WKBN | W, 38-34 | |
| Sat | 9 | at UNI * | WFMJ-TV/570 WKBN AM | L, 22-20 | |
| Sat | 16 | North Dakota State * | ESPN3.com/MyYTV (TD)/570 WKBN | L, 35-17 | |
| Sat | 23 | South Dakota State * | ESPN3.com/MyYTV/570 WKBN | L, 42-13 |
Points???
BS. It may have everything to do with his past behavior. People make mistakes all the time. And even though they may have changed completely their past actions may mean that they are not considered for a job. That's life.
Watched the hayden fry special when I noticed it on the B1G flipping through and watched for a spell. Hayden said he wouldn't even consider an assistant unless he was absolutly conviced the guy had aspiration to be a big time head coach some day. Said the best assustants are hungry and ambitious not complacent and that is what he looked for. (See bill snyder, bob stoops, kirk ferentz, barry alvarez, brett bielama, dan mccarney, etc.). Also worth noting some ISU assistants during ISU's best boom years.... they include Mack Brown, Paul Rhoads,Dave Campo, Jackie Sherrill, Joe Avezenno, Joe Bugel, Glen Mason, Jimmy Johnson, Pete Carroll Etc.
Hayden Fry was right on imo. Hiring the lifer assistants is not the way to go (with the exception of Wally as that man was born hungry).
There are two good paths to take for a school like Iowa State:
*Young, unproven guy that's hungry and gunning to be a big-time HC some day (Tom Herman)
*Old, proven guy that's experienced and looking for his last stop in his career (Wally Burnham)
Messingham was neither
Good thing Hayden had good old Bill Brashier as his Defensive Coordinator for 17 years at Iowa and 11 years at North Texas State.
Briefly looking through the feed he seems like he has changed. Maybe he's always been like that but he seems to be fairly down to earth and values his friends and family.
