True - just don't see it happening.Doesnt mean Messingham cant have a reduced role as some other assistant. Rhoads is going to lose the fanbase if he does not reassign at the least Courtney Messingham plain and simple.
True - just don't see it happening.Doesnt mean Messingham cant have a reduced role as some other assistant. Rhoads is going to lose the fanbase if he does not reassign at the least Courtney Messingham plain and simple.
True - just don't see it happening.
Am I the only one that thinks the CPR era at ISU is toast?? Five years is more than enough to show what you and your team can do, isn't it?
When you are 1-7, a lot of people are doing a horrible job on that staff. I know these players are not that much worse than anyone at Tech, K-State, UNI, Iowa that they just get absolutely dominated every game. We went toe to toe with Texas talent wise, so yeah I really think a lot of this is coaching. Rhoads has shown no progress in 1.5 years as a head coach. Frankly, I'm going into next season with the expectation that everyone will want him gone. He sucks, his upsets are just fluke wins.
Nebraska wasn't even that good when we beat them, that Texas team was one of Texas's worst teams in the last 20 years, TCU ended up being mediocre last year, Oklahoma state was huge but I guarantee they beat us 19/20 times on the field.
I'm sick of the excuses Rhoads. Fire somebody who isn't doing their job right, assistants, coordinators, I dont care. Clean house if you have too and hire capable people. Even if that means another 4-5 win season next year I wouldnt mind because it shows you give a crap about this program and making it right and that you aren't some contempt cash cow piece of crap.
/end rant
One season does not make or break a coach, and down seasons happen. Even Bill Snyder had down years when he was bringing K State up. In fact, I think his last season he only won 4 games. What will make or break Rhoads is how he responds to this season and gets things fixed.
And of those 4 years Mess has only been the OC for 2, the prior 2 years are on the guy currently lighting up the scoreboards at OSU.
Doesnt mean Messingham cant have a reduced role as some other assistant. Rhoads is going to lose the fanbase if he does not reassign at the least Courtney Messingham plain and simple. I dont know any Cyclone fans whose blood wasnt boiling on Saturday. My mom knows very little about the actual intricacies of football and even she thinks a change is needed.
What does Urban Meyer have to do with our offense?
Curt thats what we call apathy!Hi I am Curt, my blood wasn't boiling on Saturday.
PR is secure in his job but let's be honest; this isn't a down year. This is a ****ing disaster. We're going 1-11 and each loss is worse than the last one. Ben Bruns called this ISU offense the worst he's ever seen.
Does anyone NOT think KU ends their conference losing streak on Nov. 23rd in Ames?
Keep in mind that he did try and change the offense over the off season by brining in Klenakis to help install the Pistol. You don't bring in someone like that if you have complete confidence in where the offense is at. He knows there needs to be a change on offense, but he is not going to say something to media half way through the season.
Curt thats what we call apathy!
Time for more trick plays.
To be fair, that 4 win season for Snyder was coming off 11 win seasons and Fiesta bowl appearances. It was no doubt seen as a ******* disaster also.
I'm down right now too, but let's give the players on this team a chance to take a little prid back with them this season, 3/4 games are winnable from a talent perspective, let's see if they can get it together.
To be fair, that 4 win season for Snyder was coming off 11 win seasons and Fiesta bowl appearances. It was no doubt seen as a ******* disaster also.
I'm down right now too, but let's give the players on this team a chance to take a little prid back with them this season, 3/4 games are winnable from a talent perspective, let's see if they can get it together.
That is a good point. I think people forget that to these players, there are MANY more moving parts than just one guy and they see what's happening in meeting rooms, practice, etc. One player I talked to about a month ago said, "I heard people are mad at Mess?" And he also went on to say how Mess recruited a lot of these guys.
Is it the play calling? Is it the player execution? Is it player development? For all we know, Mess could be putting in extra hours with film study and QB reads we don't know about, but if that isn't executed is that his fault? I'm not defending anyone here, just acknowledging lots of stuff happening to consider.
JP and Rhoads though do need to consider it all as they go into the off season. If the pulse of the fan base is frustration/anger/uneasy, sometimes changes happen to help the fan base, etc.
Am I the only one that thinks the CPR era at ISU is toast?? Five years is more than enough to show what you and your team can do, isn't it?