Understood, but Beebe didn't say that we were waiting for the right schools, he said we weren't interested in expanding.
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Understood, but Beebe didn't say that we were waiting for the right schools, he said we weren't interested in expanding.
Well, it looks like all this worked out well for Texags. A lot of new posters today with stars (subscription levels) :biglaugh:
There is no evidence that a Big 12 network would be very profitable.
The SEC doesn't have a conference network (despite significantly higher population than the Big 12). Does that mean the "leaders" of the SEC are only looking out for themselves and not the rest of the conference schools because they have not blasted forward with a (what could likely be an unprofitable) conference network?
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You need to improve your contract reading skills. As explained in this link, the LHN contract is not onerous or sinister as idiot Aggies and doomsdayers like yourself think:
Texas’ Contract with ESPN for the Longhorn Network «
Another day, another round of stupid Aggie rumors. Not sure who is more at fault. The pinhead Aggies with Little Bro Syndrome who start this crap or the numerous sadsacks here who buy their bull$hit.
CycloneErik
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SEC schools are also able to negotiate their own 3rd tier rights. Everyone in the SEC can have their own Longhorn Network.
Which, as has been pointed out numerous times on CF, does not mean much difference in revenue between the top and bottom in the Big 12 (at least to this point). This argument is a strawman.
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Since the SEC, ACC, Big East and P12 don't have conference networks, either, it provides very strong evidence that the B10 is the only conference capable of making it work due to their population base and fortunate timing. The Mtn has been a failure and since the P12 did not announce financial terms for their networks, their announcment was more about show than dough.
The SEC does not have equal revenue sharing of 3rd Tier network deals. Florida could make a deal similar to Texas at any time but stupid Aggies don't realize that.
This is part of the reason that the SEC doesn't have its own network.
Without the network having control of each schools 3rd tier rights, its pretty hard to drum up big ratings for weak games.
Ohio State Vs. the School for the Blind gets big ratings for the BTN because Ohio State is on the Big Ten Network. Florida would hardly, if ever, be on an SEC network because they'd be on either the SEC or their 3rd tier channel.
Of course, the SEC won't have a network for at least another decade because when they signed their 2nd tier contract with ESPN, they agreed not to form one.
True, but I am under the impression that the contractual arrangement between Florida and the Sunshine Network differs from the LHN arrangement.
That network will also be discussed during the upcoming NCAA summit.
I agree the initial impact of the Texas HS games on the LHN was overstated by Aggies, but the subtle difference is that recruits aren't playing on the "Gator Channel".
Iowa State plays on ESPN, but I'd have no problem with Iowa HS football games being played on ESPN.
I would have a problem with Iowa HS games being played on "Cyclone TV" though.
FS Florida/Sun Sports. They carry UF and FSU events, and have the rights to HS finals in football and hoops.
Not really different than FS Midwest's setup with Missouri third-tier games and HS championships.
Correct, those networks are not considered "institutional networks" like the LHN, BTN or the Mtn.
You all make valid points. I still have the feeling that texas is setting up to go indy, but you all make good points.
I think people on both sides are making good arguments/points.
What usually happens when an owner of a team says we are happy with the coach or where we are at? Changes generally happen soon after. 13 teams in the SEC would be awkward, they would almost need to add 2 and somehow be able to make more money instantly to make it worthwhile. A&M is in a deep hole right now money-wise so they would want the SEC to pay the out fees to the Big 12 (unless a big donor stepped up for the Aggies). Would the SEC schools want to pony up the exit fees to receive less payout for the next few years? This could work out if NBC were to come in and say we will pay you for third tier rights games...I do not know if that is possible though.
If A&M is serious why didnt they move when the other moves were made? If they are thinking of leaving they look really stupid to do it now. They knew what they were getting into when the reuped with the Big 12. Something tells me they didnt have a home elsewhere a year ago and dont anywhere else to go now.
This part is what some dont seem to get. The LHN is a lot more than it was sold as. It was sold as 'just a noncon fb game and some other minor texas sports that nobody cares about'. Everyone figured, ****, if texas can make some money on this, why not. This is also why everyone was estimating a LOT less for texas's potential earnings on this.
Then it became clear ESPN\Texas were after more. Additional conference games, high school games, etc. Thats when TAMU started calling foul.
