Pollard has now hired 2 National Championship caliber coaches

[alarson]

Gene Chizik was not a good hire. He didn't want to be here from day one, only won 5 games in 2 years, and bolted as soon as he could.

That doesnt make him a bad hire. It was never a secret that he'd probably take off when he got the chance to move up. Typically though, that requires taking a program up a level, and would have left us in a better place than when he got here. Somehow a 5-19 coach got picked up by a power school, against all odds. No way JP could have predicted that, as its such a freak thing that rarely happens.

We also knew we were getting a situation where he'd be learning on the job. Even he admitted mistakes were made, and was making efforts to correct those before he got the call from Auburn.

So should the fan bases of Bowling Green and Utah pat the ADs on the back that hired Urban Meyer because Meyer won national championships at Florida?

Certainly shows that those ADs had an eye for talent. (though they got to see the results at their schools too)

 

[Rogue52]

IMO, Jamie Pollard's success should be measured by one primary parameter and one secondary parameter...

Primary Parameter: Wins/Losses
Secondary Parameter: Finances

The two parameters are highly dependent on each other. I believe JP has shown success at the secondary parameter and this will hopefully bring more success at the primary one. At times, he's made some interesting media relations decisions, but I think he feels it's part of the fight when you are in the position we are. I also think he's come a long way since 2005.

Either way, the success of a former coach at another school should not be a parameter to judge his success. It could be used as an argument of why it was a good idea to hire a particular coach at the time. It's a game of "What have you done for me lately?"

 

[Tre4ISU]

You make it sound like Cael is the only person who has that problem. Do you suppose Coach Rhoads loves every aspect of the football facilities? Nope. Christy Johnson-Lynch has been begging for awhile for a practice facility. At the end of the day, Christy realizes beggers can't be choosers. Did Cael? I'd say no.

Do you agree with everything with your boss? I highly doubt it. If you confide that in someone, is it possible it is over or understated? Absolutely.

Exactly. It's not about not having everything you want because no coach at ISU will ever have everything. It's about a certain loyalty to the school and being able to fight through those challenges. Like I said, obviously, Cael wasn't willing to do that and he went elsewhere which is certainly his right, but I think it showed what he was all about.

 

[cloneswereall]

You make it sound like Cael is the only person who has that problem. Do you suppose Coach Rhoads loves every aspect of the football facilities? Nope. Christy Johnson-Lynch has been begging for awhile for a practice facility. At the end of the day, Christy realizes beggers can't be choosers. Did Cael? I'd say no.

Do you agree with everything with your boss? I highly doubt it. If you confide that in someone, is it possible it is over or understated? Absolutely.

Oh hey! Rhoads is getting promises of what he wants! I can only assume that Lynch is getting frustrated by being put off if something isn't planned for her that we don't know about. How is it so hard to say that JP is at least just as much at fault for Cael leaving as Cael himself?

 

[Tre4ISU]

Oh hey! Rhoads is getting promises of what he wants! I can only assume that Lynch is getting frustrated by being put off if something isn't planned for her that we don't know about. How is it so hard to say that JP is at least just as much at fault for Cael leaving as Cael himself?

Rhoads is getting promised things because his program not only makes money but it is the cash cow of the whole AD. How hard is it to understand that we have a small budget and JP can't just go throing money at things that will never repay themselves in our position. Cael should have known that when he took the job.

 

[alarson]

Oh hey! Rhoads is getting promises of what he wants! I can only assume that Lynch is getting frustrated by being put off if something isn't planned for her that we don't know about. How is it so hard to say that JP is at least just as much at fault for Cael leaving as Cael himself?

Rhoads and Lynch both know that our department has limits and that those will always have to be worked around. As i recall Lynch has turned down other offers, so she can't be too unhappy here.

 

[Senolcyc]

Two of his hires have now won National Championships.

That and 50 cents would get Iowa State a cup of coffee.

 

[fatkid1974]

I wonder if Reader will stay here and train and or/coach now? It tell a lot about if our facilities are truly adequate, and ISU's commitment to wrestling.

I believe he said in his post match interview he was staying to train with KJ at the Cyclone Wrestling Club.

 

[CYKOFAN]

Cael was already here and everybody knew he was our next head wrestling coach. McDermott was a terrible hire as proven by the results. Actually Chiz's results were also horrible at ISU and let's see how Chiz does at Auburn without Scam Newton. Chiz may end up 0-13 this year before it's over. And I still think JP was asleep with Cael as he was pre-occupied with making excuses for and giving big raises to losing coaches like Chiz and GMac. I think those two were getting bigger raises than Cael's whole salary. Inexcusable.

 

[Judoka]

I wonder if Reader will stay here and train and or/coach now? It tell a lot about if our facilities are truly adequate, and ISU's commitment to wrestling.

Reader stated in his post match interview that he was staying in Ames to train under KJ for the next level. Zabriskie is still here as well. Varner knew he was leaving to follow Cael before KJ even showed up on campus, but he was respectful about it and didn't publicly speak about it until after the season was over.

 

[rebecacy]

The "wrestling community" has roughly no idea what goes in within the walls of the Jacobson Building. The people who are within the wrestling community say exactly the opposite of what the people with sources inside the athletics department say. Both are extremely biased. The truth lies somewhere in the middle. Common sense however shows a new wrestling facility, recruiting hotbed, and money waiting for him making it much easier to believe JP wasn't nearly as much at fault as it is portrayed by the wrestling community.

We suck and the wrestling community needs a fall guy. At the NCAA level, it is a dying sport......any futurist can see that. Look at the number of schools who have already gotten out and those that continue to get out. I remember going to meets in the 70s when Hilton was near capacity for wrestling but those days are long gone and they are not coming back.

 

[rebecacy]

Yea, I'm sure that all the rumors I heard while going through school at ISU were all just hogwash about how Cael and JP were at odds about aspects of the program.

Pure hogwash!!!

 

[Senolcyc]

At the NCAA level, it is a dying sport......any futurist can see that.

Is that what Pollard told you? Would explain a lot. Is he passively giving up on wrestling?

 

[swarthmoreCY]

Is that what Pollard told you? Is he passively giving up on wrestling?

If that means not investing in the sport, I hope Pollard did tell him that.

 

[cloneswereall]

If that means not investing in the sport, I hope Pollard did tell him that.

Hell let's just drop the sport and bring back baseball!

 

[Senolcyc]

Hell let's just drop the sport and bring back baseball!

Cross country won't go without, that is for sure.

 

[CYKOFAN]

Hilton was packed in the 70's because we were winning and competing for national titles. Yes there are fewer wrestling programs, but that's making for more good programs and more programs competing for top 10 finishes. It's not just Iowa, Iowa State, Oklahoma and Oky State any more like it was years ago, so I think it's creating more interest in collegiate wrestling in more places. KJ's got a tough job ahead as we lost momentum when Cael left, so he has to build the program back up, and I hope he has the commitment from the athletic department to help him do it.

 

[swarthmoreCY]

Hell let's just drop the sport and bring back baseball!

Why would we want to bring back baseball?
You are overreacting to this year's finish in wrestling.

 

[CYKOFAN]

Sadly that's probably true about cross country. Has anybody but family or friends ever gone to a cross country tournament? I'm all for dropping cc and putting the money toward wrestling, football or basketball.

 

[swarthmoreCY]

Sadly that's probably true about cross country. Has anybody but family or friends ever gone to a cross country tournament? I'm all for dropping cc and putting the money toward wrestling, football or basketball.

Theshadow would know, but can we drop any sports or female scholarships? We have to be close to the min requirements in both.
Also, does cross country lose more money than wrestling?