Pollard has now hired 2 National Championship caliber coaches
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I have no idea. But I betcha Cael's compensation at Penn State is closer to that of their women's bball coach than it was here.
Again, JP makes choices regarding what sport is important. That's fine. It's also fine for Cael to react to JP's choices and make decisions.
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i honestly don't think cael would have stayed if we gave him $750,000. his heart wasn't here, and that is what stings the most.
we helped him make his legacy, and this is how he repays us.
we helped him make his legacy, and this is how he repays us.
I'm sure it is too but that isn't how an AD at a low budget school should deal. You can't just throw money around to people who don't ever create a return.
Disagree - granted much of what he accomplished was due to his efforts, but to say that Iowa State contributed nothing is completely false.
That's ********. No one does anything in the sports world like he did on their own. We helped him out a lot, especially in Olympic training and loyalty meant nothing to him but I don't suppose that's any different than most of the public so it should be OK I guess.
It's funny that if he were a Cyclone it would be about what a great individual feat he accomplished throughout his wrestling career. Now that he's not viewed in favor by Cyclone faithful it's about what Iowa State allowed him to do.l It surmises this whole thread of seeking advancement and more credit than there is to be had.
That's what it was about when he was here. That's why he got his first job here. Then he sold everyone out for more "stuff."
Gene Chizik was not a good hire. He didn't want to be here from day one, only won 5 games in 2 years, and bolted as soon as he could.
Why does Pollard deserve credit for what Chizik has done at Auburn? What did Pollard do to make Chizik successful post-Iowa State rather then when he was at Iowa State?
Sanderson is a different argument as he did win 3 Big 12 championships during his time here. But Pollard does not deserve credit for Cael winning a national championship as a coach elsewhere.
So should the fan bases of Bowling Green and Utah pat the ADs on the back that hired Urban Meyer because Meyer won national championships at Florida?
Oh please. Had he stayed here, he would have had the same opportunities as far as competition. Sure, he wouldn't have had a state of the art facility or other bells and whistles but from a competetion standpoint he would have been fine. From the job support perspective, I don't know because I wasn't invited to discussions but it sounds to me like JP was doing everything within reason to keep him here. Of course, most wrestling loayalists with point the finger at JP saying he didn't treat Cael fair whether it's actually true or not just because it's easier than saying the golden boy held no loyalty here and didn't want to wait.
I was talking a recruiting competitive advantage. And wrestling loyalists tend to say such things because the wrestling community is fairly close knit, and tend to know a lot more than people outside of the community.
The "wrestling community" has roughly no idea what goes in within the walls of the Jacobson Building. The people who are within the wrestling community say exactly the opposite of what the people with sources inside the athletics department say. Both are extremely biased. The truth lies somewhere in the middle. Common sense however shows a new wrestling facility, recruiting hotbed, and money waiting for him making it much easier to believe JP wasn't nearly as much at fault as it is portrayed by the wrestling community.
I wonder if Reader will stay here and train and or/coach now? It tell a lot about if our facilities are truly adequate, and ISU's commitment to wrestling.
Yea, I'm sure that all the rumors I heard while going through school at ISU were all just hogwash about how Cael and JP were at odds about aspects of the program.
You make it sound like Cael is the only person who has that problem. Do you suppose Coach Rhoads loves every aspect of the football facilities? Nope. Christy Johnson-Lynch has been begging for awhile for a practice facility. At the end of the day, Christy realizes beggers can't be choosers. Did Cael? I'd say no.
Do you agree with everything with your boss? I highly doubt it. If you confide that in someone, is it possible it is over or understated? Absolutely.
