Usually one picks up sarcasm from tone of voice. I knew he was probably being sarcastic. Maybe I was too? :unsure:
WSU top 10?
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Usually one picks up sarcasm from tone of voice. I knew he was probably being sarcastic. Maybe I was too? :unsure:
WSU is ranked 8th for a home win against UNI and absolutely no other impressive wins. 5 or 6 seed...not 2 as the ap would suggest.
Their "good" loss in OT @Utah isn't looking as good as it used to, either. It's still a very respectable loss -- it just doesn't carry quite as much weight as it used too.
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Serious question; take a look at a current bracket projection from either Lunardi or Palm and switch a current 8 seed with UNI in the 4 seed. Can you make a serious, rational argument for that team to be in that spot besides UNI?
Why would you move an 8 seed up to 4? Wouldn't you move the 8 up to 7, 7 up to 6, 6 up to 5, and finally the 5 up to the 4?
I think people on CF are giving UNI too much hate, but that also isn't a fair comparison. You could also put UNI in the7-8 spot and move all the other teams down. I think that would be a lot more realistic
Edit: looks like Andy beat me to it
Wichita State should probably be a 6 seed now. UNI, if they win, should be a 4. If Illinois State gets in, they're likely a 14.
The MVC is nowhere near the level of the Big 12 but UNI and Wichita State are both good teams. I'm not going to speculate where they would finish in the Big 12 or anything like that. That's useless. If you've actually watched both teams play multiple times this year, you know they are both good teams.
The MVC is nowhere near the level of the Big 12 but UNI and Wichita State are both good teams. I'm not going to speculate where they would finish in the Big 12 or anything like that. That's useless. If you've actually watched both teams play multiple times this year, you know they are both good teams.
I think he said this because there was somebody on page two of this thread who said something along the lines of "put them in the 8/9 matchup. If they're so good, let them prove it!" which is probably the dumbest argument possible.
The reason I phrased the question the way I did is because CyForPresident specifically wrote that he (or she, for all I know) would love to see UNI/WSU as an 8 seed. Therefore, I thought it only natural to ask what team that is currently an 8 seed that would deserve a 4 seed over UNI. You could certainly do a hypothetical situation the way in which you described, but the 8 seed was specifically mentioned.
Not really. I don't think UNI deserves the 4. And besides, what he said doesn't mean you have to switch them
You certainly don't have to switch them. All just hypothetical; which is certainly a part of these kinds of message boards, right?
I'm with WooClone on this one. If you believe one team is deserving of an 8 seed (UNI), it does not mean that you think another 8 seed is deserving of a 4 seed.
I see what you're saying, I just thought it was kind of a mixed up argument to say that he was dumb for considering UNI an 8 seed because that would mean he thought an 8 seed should be a 4. Like you said, it's all hypothetical anyways, but I think UNI should be somewhere in the middle, around a 6 seed.
I made a rational argument upwards in the thread that they and WSU have no better resume than a team on the bubble, using texas as an example.
If I was a betting man, I know I would pick Wichita State's opponent knocking them off in the first round!
Right. I'm just saying your question doesn't logically follow from his, and you can't assume that's what he wanted to do.
Hey, I never wrote he was dumb. I do admit that as a dual fan that I've gotten a little defensive and at times a little personal with certain posters who I perceive as just being paranoid and butt hurt that UNI has a really good team this season and is ranked above ISU, and I'm trying not to be so thin-skinned and oversensitive myself. I'm really not trying to take things personally on here and in return not be personal myself. I think it's a good thing to be able to agree to disagree without being disagreeable.
Anyway, a #6 seed is a strong possibility if we (UNI) lose tomorrow, and I think with a win we're in solid position for a 4 seed, with an outside shot at a 5 depending on what other teams do.
I don't believe that an 8 seed should jump to a 4 or whatever you guys came up with. I do believe that MVC teams are way overrated and shouldn't get a 4/5 seed. My post was simply something I'd like to see happen. Kinda like sticking Kentucky and the region of death with WSU last year. Basically a giant FU, prove it from the committee
