The Big 12 champ will be a massive underdog in their game
Williams & Blum: The Big 12’s path to being a multi-bid league
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TCU was an 8-point underdog vs Michigan in 2022, gotta play the games.
Probably, but you never know. KSU may lose another game and then beat an undefeated ISU.
There's so many ifs and buts with CU and BYU as well, and tiebreakers... still a lot of moving parts.
Vodka was prohibited at BYU. Tampons were not. Sounds like I dodged a bullet by having the first part of the equation removed for me.
Except that's wrong for us. We're undefeated so should at least be in the bubble with IU, Pitt, etc. If our road win at the time against Iowa still counted as a to 25 we'd be in the middle.
I just assumed that some algorithm figured out I have a 14 year old daughter but doesn't know if it's her or me listening to the podcast
The original post of this on Twitter specified it uses current rankings.
We haven't played a team that's currently ranked.
Which is why we're not in the top 25 win section. We should be in the undefeated vs unranked section (obviously).
Im not so sure about that. Depends who they play. The power rankings really like both Iowa State and Kansas State. Lets say Iowa State/KState played a Miami, or Penn State, Tennessee or Notre Dame on a neutral field in the 2nd round. What would the spread against those teams be? I think Iowa State/KState would likely be anywhere from 4.5 to 3 point underdogs against those teams. Could be wrong?
ISU on a neutral field against those teams per KFord:
vs Miami (-6)
vs Penn State (-5.5)
vs UT (-8)
vs ND (-8)
But we could also very well play our first game against:
Texas (-11)
Ohio State (-13)
UGA (-10.5)
Oregon (-7)
K State would be about a half point worse than ISU.
It's a near certainty the Big XII champ will play the second-best team in either the SEC or B1G. Feels like the opponent will be one of OSU, Texas, UGA, UT, Oregon, or Penn State.
The host of College Football Network on Sat. radio where talking today about the undefeated teams and if the B12 could get in two teams. Both of the host has gone through the mock ranking training, one with the 12 team and the other 4 team playoff.
They were comparing 12-1 ISU to a 10-2 Alabama, they said that they would have a list of all the defensive and offensive stats, but the end stat would be SOS. It would currently show Alabama #2, ISU #40. Now that is going to change as the season goes on, they stated and ISU would get an extra data point playing an undefeated BYU team, but if they were using the criteria that the training taught them, all things being roughly the same offensive and defensively they both would choose the higher SOS team. Meaning a two loss team with a much higher SOS would get in over a one loss team with a lower SOS.
They were comparing 12-1 ISU to a 10-2 Alabama, they said that they would have a list of all the defensive and offensive stats, but the end stat would be SOS. It would currently show Alabama #2, ISU #40. Now that is going to change as the season goes on, they stated and ISU would get an extra data point playing an undefeated BYU team, but if they were using the criteria that the training taught them, all things being roughly the same offensive and defensively they both would choose the higher SOS team. Meaning a two loss team with a much higher SOS would get in over a one loss team with a lower SOS.
I only see two paths to the playoff. Win the title game, or take a close loss to an undefeated BYU in the title game.
I think any regular season loss or any other title game outcome and we are out of the playoff. Even 11-1 with a close loss to KSU and missing the title game due to tie breakers I would say puts us out of the playoff.
I think any regular season loss or any other title game outcome and we are out of the playoff. Even 11-1 with a close loss to KSU and missing the title game due to tie breakers I would say puts us out of the playoff.
Saw this on Twitter earlier in the week. This is actually terrible - how can ISU be undefeated overall but not be classified as “undefeated vs unranked”? And others pointed out a ton of other mistakes as well.
