Williams & Blum: The Aaron Craft game with the forgotten Hoiberg team
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Wonder what most would consider the mount rushmore of ISU MBB kicks to the stones are. Thinking MSU is clearly on there then probably this game and then Niang foot injury. That would leave one more possibly another tourney upset aka UAB or the team that must never be mentioned?
The latter by a mile on that one.
UAB was the kind of game we'd seen from that team a few times that season and it just kind of reared its head again.
The other one was 'well, they're up 11 here (iirc), should hold on at least despite not looking very good' and then...well, they didn't hold on.
The Withey 5th foul game (also knowns as the Niang floor foul game) was an ear burner for me.
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**** that rosey check Raggedy Andy mother ******.I appreciate the passion as a fan.
I don't get the burning hatred for Aaron Craft of all people.
Is there some scandal in his biography I am unaware of...? Abusive to women somehow, abusive to animals in the Michael Vick vein, known as a particularly dirty or particularly arrogant player? Normally, I thought you would reserve such level of invective and hatred for somebody who did something like that.
Not that I can tell. Just yet another pretty good but overhyped goofy Big Ten white guy. There are a million of those off the assembly line. We play one or two of them every game against Iowa.
Yeah, he hit a big shot against the Cyclones. Being knocked out of the NCAA tournament is always painful and especially frustrating in a close game like that. But it was a #2 beating a #10. It wasn't some titanic upset. I would imagine Ohio State was favored by a small margin. If anything the frustrating part about that game for me was Chris Babb's injury limiting his effectiveness and limiting him to 15 minutes.
That rat bastard Craft wasn't even that great in that game. He had 18 but on 4/9 from two, 1/1 from three (and yeah it was a big one...), and 7/11 from the line. He was only +0.2 in the net. His teammate Deshaun Thomas had more points, and Laquinton Ross (I think off the bench) killed us with 17 and +4.3 net.
It's not like we haven't seen other great performances against the Cyclones to knock us out of the NCAA tournament. While we're in the mood for painful memories, what about these doozies?
2014 = Niang foot injury / Deandre Daniels went off for 27 for the Huskies
2015 = #3 Iowa State goes down to #14 UAB... a much more shocking and devastating loss
2016 = Anthony Gill for 23 and Mike Tobey for 18 in 20 minutes as UVA downs overmatched ISU
2017 = a much better ISU team than the 2013 one lost to an okay Purdue team... PJ Thompson hit a massive three with 2:59 left to give Purdue a 74-73 lead they never relinquished... the late Swaggy P added another two to make it 76-73 and then Vincent Edwards sealed it at 78-73 in a late Purdue run to make it a two-possession game with 1:36 left and Iowa State could never claw it back for the win... adding some salt to the wound, Monté missed the front end of a one-and-one with about 30 seconds to go (Deonte had scored two more points between 1:36 and that moment)... if he makes both of them then it's a tie but nope he missed and that was it.
2018 = Keyshawn Woods for 19 and Kaleb Wesson (the big guy) for 21
2022 = Kameron McGusty (remember that tool from Oklahoma?) ripped us apart with 27 for The U
2023 = nothing really notable from Pitt... just couldn't throw a beach ball in the ocean that night
2024 = TERRENCE SHANNON JR. HAD 29 POINTS IN 22 MINUTES... he completely ruined us and broke down the Cyclones' trapping defense... the only reason we were even in that game was because he got into foul trouble on a questionable call or two early in the game... a much more devastating loss, too, with a chance for the first Elite Eight since Fizer/Tinsley on the line and losing as a higher seed (#3 downed #2)
Shannon... played a better game. Beat the Cyclones on a bigger stage with much more on the line. When Iowa State was likely favored. We had plenty of history with him given his three-year tenure with Texas Tech playing for a guy who very much probably committed domestic abuse and then for another guy who was even too much of a religious weirdo for the good and true people of Lubbock and western Texas.
And oh I barely want to link to this but umm yeah...
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-b...hannon-jr-understands-seriousness-rape-charge
Why isn't he our Joker to our Batman?
Yet we've chosen Craft as our antagonist even though "the shot" was against one of the weaker Iowa State teams of that era, it was a loss against a higher seed, and Craft had a good game but not a great game like some of the other guys who have knocked us out of the tournament in the past 15 years.
I get it. The **** AARON CRAFT meme is funny. But chill out just a little.
It wasn't nearly as impressive of a performance by an opponent or as devastating of a loss for the Cyclones as at least a half-dozen instances of each since we stopped sucking at basketball in 2011.
If you want me to introduce you to a profession with some of histories evilest people...
...let me introduce you to the attorney.
Do you think things like that indict your entire profession?
Pretty sure doctors on net have done more good than bad (at least for the last few centuries) and pretty sure Dr. Craft is going to do good things for the people of Columbus, Ohio. At least, I am pretty confident he is not going to do anything that would put him in a class with Mengele and Shirō Ishii.
The guy made a shot in a college basketball game. Yeah, we were on the wrong end of it. It sucks. But when a guy buries a shot from near-half court to win a game in the NCAA tournament...
...sometimes you just gotta tip your cap.
It sucks, but if you're an Iowa State fan for the winning alone, you might be at the wrong bus stop.
If we expanded it to all ISU sports there might be enough to have a 64-incident tournament bracket.
No. CloneLawman did not seriously equate Craft with Mengele. Give it a rest, bub. Enjoy your "delicious strawberries and cream " and give us all the gift of your silence.
"I ate his liver with some nice strawberries and cream," probably Dr. Aaron Kraft.
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Judging what Shirley said the chemistry was at the end there even if we got passed that game that team didn't have much left in the tank though.
UAB loss team was picked by many for a possible final four run of course we found out there was an issue on that team in form of BDJ
That was the following season. This OSU team beat Zona and lost to 9 seed Wichita St in the Elite 8.
I am really looking forward to Iowa State sports this fall and winter. I don't know that I can handle reliving that loss.
@brentblum you’re mistaken about the blown block/charge call. The restricted area was already in place, the ref just missed that Craft’s heel was hanging over the line. By the letter of the rule that restricted area extends to infinity vertically so it should’ve been an automatic block call.
It seems the topic of Aaron Craft makes a couple of normally reasonable posters on here go full Captain Ahab. Never has there been so much wailing and gnashing of teeth over a #2 beating a #10.
Tell you what, @CloneLawman, when you fire up the ol' bass boat and head down the Des Moines and Mississippi and up the Ohio and the Scioto with your harpoon mounted prominently at the prow to put a hole in the wall of The Ohio State University Wexner Medical Center, then I'll come with and pay my fair share of the expenses. I'll bring a cooler of some nice, fresh strawberries we can enjoy together on the way.
But I want to be there when you finally send The White Whale to the deepest depths of Hell.
Tell you what, @CloneLawman, when you fire up the ol' bass boat and head down the Des Moines and Mississippi and up the Ohio and the Scioto with your harpoon mounted prominently at the prow to put a hole in the wall of The Ohio State University Wexner Medical Center, then I'll come with and pay my fair share of the expenses. I'll bring a cooler of some nice, fresh strawberries we can enjoy together on the way.
But I want to be there when you finally send The White Whale to the deepest depths of Hell.
looking back at that years schedule
- FGCU team they beat went onto Dunk City fame that March
- 0-2 in Vegas non con tournament vs Cincy and UNLV
- a young BDJ had 9 pts 4 rbs 4 assts for UNLV
- #1 draft pick Anthony Bennet had 22 pts 7 rbs
- played AT UMKC. Cannot imagine that in todays CBB environment
- went 6-11 away from Hilton that year
You misunderstand the root cause of any gnashing of teeth.
How about we just let it go and spare the poor folks reading this thread. I decline your offer.
It's a series of jokes and pretentious allusions to Moby-**** and The Caine Mutiny.
Relax.
They were different players from the standpoint of Clyburn was a shot creator, the offensive could flow through him sometimes. Whereas Ejim (one of my favorite cyclones) got his with hustle.
