Why they watch doesn't matter. It's just # of eyeballs.
Williams & Blum: Analyzing this week’s bombshell report
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It has been. But Big12, ACC and G5 schools were also part of the same CFP and Bowl eco-system as the Big10 & SEC.
But if the Big10 & SEC feel that everyone else is inferior and they want to look down upon Big12, ACC and G5- why would I support Big10 & SEC by watching their games?
Last season I basically watched Big12 games in FB & MBB. If it is as non-Big12 it was basically Notre Dame and some ACC.
Go forward, why would I support ESPN and FOX by purchasing their DTC products? I'll just go to sports bar to watch Cyclone games. Instead of spending $60/month on ESPN/Fox, I'll spend $60/month on a sandwich, fries and soda
The problem with your argument it doesn't matter who the B1G or SEC teams play in the non conference season. They'll still get the ratings they always get playing mostly tomato cans they usually play.
And how many teams in those conferences have a marquee matchup with a Big 12 or ACC opponent in the first 3 weeks of the season? The answer is none. So in your hypothetical scenario there aren't any big annual series that would go away. So they wouldn't be missing out on anything.
And you mentioned sports outside of football. None of those sports moves the needle anywhere close to football. You think CBS and their March Madness partners would even consider dumping the SEC for its tournament? Get back to reality.
In short you can't flex when you don't have any power and right now the Big 12 & ACC don't have any. All of their power brokers in those conferences know that if any conference member gets an invite to the B1G or SEC they'll be gone in a heartbeat.
I already don’t watch them. Heck I watch almost no football because half of the games I met. The other weekends if I see a big 10 or SEC game it’s because I’m at a bar.
Unfortunately, the TV doesn’t ask why you are watching.
I would also and were not part of the few. There’s a large amount of people
And the Big 10/SEC games are the ones currently scheduled prime time and broadcast over the air, so they should have a significantly larger viewing audience.
If they go their own way and separate completely from the other 3/4 of the nation's football programs, their viewing audience will shrink significantly and their media payout will shrink accordingly.
I know I'll stop watching their games and I think there will be many others just like me.
There is a piece of self-fulfilling prophecy to this. They’re continually on the biggest networks so that’s what people know, they get the biggest payouts, and the recruits get more exposure. Which feeds back into them getting bigger viewership.
Then they say, well I guess you’re not worthy to be in a division with us because you don’t get the ratings and you can’t beat us.
What you’re missing is that the only non con teams they could play are against the other conf…SEC v BIG. So the two conferences beat up on each other and the only playoff they have to look forward to are against those same teams….boring…no tv demand.
I am not convinced the casual fan or fans of those monster alumni conferences would find it boring.
If that were to happen, I could see the networks making them go to 1-2 OOC games and 10 conference games. I am sure Oklahoma fans wouldn’t mind playing Michigan one year, USC the next, and Penn St., etc.
Networks would want that inventory.
Man, I think a LOT of you in here are grossly undervaluing the casual fan and their propensity to tune into what the talking heads effectively tell them to tune in to.
While simultaneously overestimating how much the P2 "need" the rest of us. Look at how many of y'all haven't been watch much (or any) B1G & SEC games, yet their ratings have only gone up.
In my opinion, the only move the Big XII and ACC have left is to hold on for dear life as long as possible.
While simultaneously overestimating how much the P2 "need" the rest of us. Look at how many of y'all haven't been watch much (or any) B1G & SEC games, yet their ratings have only gone up.
In my opinion, the only move the Big XII and ACC have left is to hold on for dear life as long as possible.
I'm sure it will be boring to you. But not to the masses the want to see the best 18-21 year old football players. Just because you're bitter about ISU not having a place at the table doesn't make you right.
Same here. The viewership would be interesting to see. No chance that I'm alone on my "boycott".
The way I see it, buried in your logic is the definition of 'monopoly'. ESPN/Fox control the majority of sports viewership. They, therefore, control the price of their products. By eliminating competing products with this price control, that's the very definition of a monopoly. Now, of course, I'm no legal expert, but I can see the leverage of ESPN/Fox being used to exhibit control over the vast majority of college football. Put another way, without the power of ESPN/Fox just how far ahead do you think those two conferences would be? When I entered school we were in the Big 8. I believe the year prior, the Big 8 finished 1,2,3. Why would there have been such a decline if the media did not influence it towards more dense markets? College football became what the media wanted them to become. I wouldn't have a problem with that form of capitalism had they officially 'owned' the teams and thus being subject to stricter anti-trust laws. But, they don't officially own the teams. And, thus my interpretation.
I tend to agree on most points. If we are relegated to a lower tier I think we will find attendance for football will go down dramatically. Donations will drop and we will have oversized facilities. That leads to a ton of funding issues. History shows less students will enroll / that is already under attack by our state government.
Basketball may die a slower death as it is less of a numbers game. One or two players can change a program, whereas football takes a bunch. But, recent B10 rumblings seem to want to mess with March Madness - giving the P2 more slots.
Overall - I am pessimistic how this all plays out.
I think getting state funding is a tough sell for two reasons: Iowa does not need the money and would like us diminished. And, there would be quite a backlash from academia to add sports funding while the Universities have been underfunded for a long time.
