Williams & Blum: Analyzing this week’s bombshell report

[ClubCy]

Yep…under the current narrative that would be true. But if the rest of the football world left them high and dry…they would flounder big time. it would leave them with about four teams in each conference that are currently power teams…and all they would do is play each other. No playoffs, no inter conference games. Meanwhile the rest of the football world has regional competitions, healthy inter regional games and real playoffs. It would swing in our way in a hurry.

4 teams in each? No one is volunteering to leave their conference and those paychecks.

 

[Mr.G.Spot]

I'm a 20+ year season ticketholder and lifetime fan. I'm also a taxpayer and about to be a tuition payer. I think this talk about the university needing to start subsidizing athletics is going to send me over the edge. Imagine actually believing students should take on more debt to subsidize a for-profit enterprise's 40 years of bad choices.

Correct me if I am wrong, but that is happening at UNI. AZ and ASU are already there.

 

[Mr.G.Spot]

So for the non Big 10 and Sec people, are you going to stop watching their games? Talking about games that don’t mean anything. That covers all but a few games in December and January. Will be interesting to see to see how this plays out.

I would stop fwiw.

 

[isucy86]

By my back of the napkin math the athletic department pays the University $12m to $13m in tuition every year (~550 student athletes, many of which are out of state students). I would have no issue with the University covering some or even most of that cost in the name of marketing, alumni engagement, and student experience.

That's a nice thought. But where in the University General Budget is ISU going to find a new source of revenue to compensate for the $13M it currently gets from the Athletic Department to educate those 450 students? Raise tuition for non-student-athletes, raise student fees, cut programs, cut staff, cut salaries, defer capital maintenance?

If athletics is such a valuable property, it should be able to thrive without being a financial drain on the University General Fund/Academic Mission. The reality, University Presidents should have been ahead of the game and required ALL athletic departments (whether ISU or Texas) pay royalties each year to their respective univeristies (e.g. 10%).

 

[acoustimac]

4 teams in each? No one is volunteering to leave their conference and those paychecks.

I was saying there are only about four GOOD teams in each. The rest are average to poor teams.

 

[acoustimac]

I would stop fwiw.

I rarely watch the SEC or BIG unless nothing else is on.

 

[Xerxes_]

Personally…cut off the Big Ten and SEC from the rest of college sports. I doubt the majority of the country wants to watch only the top four teams who are good in each of those two conferences to the omission of all of the other teams. The rest of the country can make a super conference for all sports (perhaps with regional groupings) and refuse to allow any of the teams from those two conferences to compete in any sport outisde of their own conference. No more games against the Big and SEC…let em die from their own greed.

Doesn't this happen pretty much every year season after the first 3 non conference games? Conferences are cut off from one another until the playoffs. Televised by the networks with their contracts to those conferences. It seems the SEC & B1G are doing just fine during that part of the season.

 

[VeloClone]

I rarely watch the SEC or BIG unless nothing else is on.

My rarely approaches almost never. I would rather watch two inept Big 12 teams fight for the bottom of the conference rather than do anything that benefits the Big 10 or the SEC.

 

[Cloneon]

Help me out here folks. Isn't our current media contract until 2030? Which begs the question, why would Fox/ESPN go all in to destroy the B12 before then. Plus, by my rudimentary calculations, the vast majority of college football fans lie outside the B1G/SEC (assuming the B1G joins the SEC), despite the media exposure, come 2030 heavily on the side of the B1G/SEC. One thing seems heir apparent: the rest of CFB WILL organize a competing playoff. So, the next big question is: who's going to be the media outlet for that audience? I see this NOT going well for the B1G/SEC IF our side plays their cards right. We shouldn't underestimate the $$$$ of companies yet to have a major player (e.g. Amazon/Apple/Meta/Google)

 

[SolarGarlic]

I'm starting to think that a super league is unavoidable. When will it be time to cut loose the rest of the college programs and let the few big spenders do what they want?

Not sure that I want us to spend our reserves, add fees on our students, depend on university allocations, or rely on state appropriations . . . just to stay on the fringe of the big spenders.

Is it time to reconfigure the rest of college athletics into a league with reasonable rules, such as transfer limits, true NIL, stipends, salary caps for coaches?

I like our chances to compete for national championships in a league that isn't defined by excessive spending by a few programs. When I listen to Campbell, I hear someone who wants to compete in a league where development of 18 to 22 year olds still matters. Would he be willing to give up salary? He already has passed on better paying opportunities. And in college, he gave up a scholarship to pay tuition and play at a D-3 school.

Yes, it will mean huge changes to revenues, but also expenses. Is there anyone better to figure it out than Pollard?

CW interrupting is bad, but what about how Brent pronouces words with "wh". Haaawhiip cream.

 

[isucy86]

Help me out here folks. Isn't our current media contract until 2030? Which begs the question, why would Fox/ESPN go all in to destroy the B12 before then. Plus, by my rudimentary calculations, the vast majority of college football fans lie outside the B1G/SEC (assuming the B1G joins the SEC), despite the media exposure, come 2030 heavily on the side of the B1G/SEC. One thing seems heir apparent: the rest of CFB WILL organize a competing playoff. So, the next big question is: who's going to be the media outlet for that audience? I see this NOT going well for the B1G/SEC IF our side plays their cards right. We shouldn't underestimate the $$$$ of companies yet to have a major player (e.g. Amazon/Apple/Meta/Google)

Agree that it doesn't seem to make sense for ESPN or FOX to diminish the value of Big12 & ACC while they are under contract.

But didn't ESPN sell off some inventory for Big12 games to TNT? So it could be part of a plan for ESPN to sell Big12 inventory to other media outlets over next couple years. So that would diminish ESPN's interest in investing or promoting Big12.

 

[acoustimac]

Doesn't this happen pretty much every year season after the first 3 non conference games? Conferences are cut off from one another until the playoffs. Televised by the networks with their contracts to those conferences. It seems the SEC & B1G are doing just fine during that part of the season.

Who will they play to start the year? They get propped up by tv…if viewership falls so will their contracts…especially when they aren’t included in any national championship games involving the majority of the ncaa…then they are also left out of all other sports as well…force them onto an island of their own doom. In basketball they have no one to play in the non con. No March madness for them.

 

[goody2012]

I rarely watch the SEC or BIG unless nothing else is on.

That's nice, but you're in the tiny minority.

 

[Pope]

That's nice, but you're in the tiny minority.

74% of all FBS schools across the nation are NOT in the Big 10 or SEC. It's not as tiny a minority as you think.

 

[BigTurk]

So for the non Big 10 and Sec people, are you going to stop watching their games? Talking about games that don’t mean anything. That covers all but a few games in December and January. Will be interesting to see to see how this plays out.

I probably watch two non-Big 12 games all year (Drake games not included) and those would be Army vs Navy and Ohio State vs Michigan. I go out of my way to not watch Iowa and I have no interest in anything else.

 

[Mr.G.Spot]

74% of all FCS schools across the nation are NOT in the Big 10 or SEC. It's not as tiny a minority as you think.

There will be a mass revolt if they try to separate themselves at the expense of others. They are structuring everything at the expense of any other league.

I don't know how this ends, the 2/3 of the country, at least geographically, will have a strong opinion.

 

[cytor]

That's nice, but you're in the tiny minority.

I never watch the B1G or SEC. I never watch ESPN either. All three are college sports cancer.

 

[goody2012]

74% of all FCS schools across the nation are NOT in the Big 10 or SEC. It's not as tiny a minority as you think.

Big 10 and SEC viewership is significantly higher than all the other conferences combined...

 

[cytor]

It won't be long before the bottom feeders of the B1G and SEC get kicked out as they bring nothing to the table.

 

[cytor]

Big 10 and SEC viewership is significantly higher than all the other conferences combined...

Only because of the population in those areas. It's not because they are on the edge of their seats watching Northwestern play the Gophers.