Why is Baylor athletics still a thing?

[HFCS]

I can't fathom why Baylor athletics still exists. I'm not talking Big 12. I'm talking how they don't have at least their football and basketball programs completely suspended by the NCAA like SMU for DRASTICALLY smaller offenses in terms of lack of institutional control.

Basketball programs covers up a murder: HUGE STRIKE ONE

Football program and university at large covers up 50+ rapes: STRIKE 2, STRIKE 3, STRIKE 4, STRIKE 5, STRIKE 6, STRIKE 7, STRIKE 8,...STRIKE 50...

It really is that simple. Given the lack of class we saw yesterday from players and coaches it would seem they are light years away from any sort of message sinking in.

The Big 12 let them get away with about 40k per rape. That's what it's worth I guess.

 

[madguy30]

At they very least kick them out of the league and bring in...pretty much anyone else.

 

[HFCS]

At they very least kick them out of the league and bring in...pretty much anyone else.

There are at least 6-7 American Athletic teams that would be a push with them, 4-5 probably with much more potential. Several MWC schools would be better too if not for the geographic stretch. Some of the AAC options fit like a glove geographically or the small stretch comes with benefits.

To my knowledge there aren't any athletic programs in the American Athletic or MWC that have covered up both a murder and 50+ rapes. Who am I kidding, only one athletic program in history has done that. These guys make SMU look squeaky clean.

What was Baylor before the Big 12? They were the only football program in worse shape than ISU when the conference formed. Their basketball program was nothing before it got into the murder business.

 

[trevn]

The current coaches and players were not a part of the issues from the past (at least I think?), but anytime anything remotely bad happens surrounding Baylor athletics, Baylor does not and should not get the benefit of the doubt. In the court of public opinion Baylor is guilty until proven innocent, and that will probably be the case for some time. And the crazy thing is, it's actually deserved.

 

[Jiub]

I find it funny how their fans badmouth Iowa State when they live in Waco, home of the Branch Davidians. Their fans also say we will be left in the dust come conference realignment time. Literally no school wants to be associated with Baylor other than maybe TCU and I base this only on the fact they are both private Texas schools. Or maybe they can form a conference with some Southland schools? Lol fill up that nice new McLane stadium to see the Rapelor Bears take on Abilene Christian Wildcats, I would pay to watch that.

I believe historical regional rivalries will play a significant role when conference realignment time comes and that plays out in a much larger favor to Iowa State than it does the Waco Rapelor Bears.

 

[HFCS]

The current coaches and players were not a part of the issues from the past (at least I think?), but anytime anything remotely bad happens surrounding Baylor athletics, Baylor does not and should not get the benefit of the doubt. In the court of public opinion Baylor is guilty until proven innocent, and that will probably be the case for some time. And the crazy thing is, it's actually deserved.

Not the bball coach murder cover up but there are DEFINITELY still people around from all the athletic department sanctioned rapes.

It's not that different than if they had busted Sandusky just a year or two after or almost during the time he did all of his raping and assaulting, yet somehow they are getting off easier than even PSU did.

 

[Bret44]

I am just hear to say **** Baylor.

 

[cycfan1]

Really like the last two tweets by Rhule... legitimately believe hes a decent person being that shouldn't be at a school like Baylor. If only Baylor followed these quotes. Hopefully he jumps ship at the end of the year.

1. Matt Rhule‏Verified account @CoachMattRhule Nov 11
   “Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter.” ~ Martin Luther King, Jr.
   
   3 replies73 retweets458 likes
   
2. 
   Matt Rhule‏Verified account @CoachMattRhule Nov 11
   Where you see wrong or inequality or injustice, speak out, because this is your country. This is your democracy. Make it. Protect it. Pass it on. Thurgood Marshall
   

 

[Tre4ISU]

I'm with everyone on Baylors previous transgressions being wholly underpunished.

Saturday wasn't a big deal, though. None of it was. No one went to take out a knee. Nothing was incredibly cheap or with intent of injury, and no one got hurt. The only real negative was the DM suspension which he could have avoided ( I said could, not should). There wasn't anything after the fight that happened. It just wasn't that big of a deal.

On Rhule: I think he is a good guy. I'm not going to pretend that he took the Baylor job because he felt it would be satisfying in cleaning up that mess. I will say, though, that would be the only reason for him to take that job and a trash human being doesn't do that. A Briles-like guy doesn't touch that job because you have 2-3 years of struggle. So, I think part of it was to come in a change the culture and that is at least somewhat respectable. I've always thought he came off as one of the good guys.

 

[Cyclonepride]

I can't fathom why Baylor athletics still exists. I'm not talking Big 12. I'm talking how they don't have at least their football and basketball programs completely suspended by the NCAA like SMU for DRASTICALLY smaller offenses in terms of lack of institutional control.

Basketball programs covers up a murder: HUGE STRIKE ONE

Football program and university at large covers up 50+ rapes: STRIKE 2, STRIKE 3, STRIKE 4, STRIKE 5, STRIKE 6, STRIKE 7, STRIKE 8,...STRIKE 50...

It really is that simple. Given the lack of class we saw yesterday from players and coaches it would seem they are light years away from any sort of message sinking in.

The Big 12 let them get away with about 40k per rape. That's what it's worth I guess.

Until some grown ups step in and make it crystal clear that putting athletic programs above the well being of the communities in which they reside is not acceptable, we will continue to see this kind of crap. It's unforgivable.

 

[cygrads]

I'm with everyone on Baylors previous transgressions being wholly underpunished.

Saturday wasn't a big deal, though. None of it was. No one went to take out a knee. Nothing was incredibly cheap or with intent of injury, and no one got hurt. The only real negative was the DM suspension which he could have avoided ( I said could, not should). There wasn't anything after the fight that happened. It just wasn't that big of a deal.

On Rhule: I think he is a good guy. I'm not going to pretend that he took the Baylor job because he felt it would be satisfying in cleaning up that mess. I will say, though, that would be the only reason for him to take that job and a trash human being doesn't do that. A Briles-like guy doesn't touch that job because you have 2-3 years of struggle. So, I think part of it was to come in a change the culture and that is at least somewhat respectable. I've always thought he came off as one of the good guys.

I guess you didn't see the video of the Baylor defensive back poking his fingers in Butler's eyes after he was down? I guess no harm no foul. Butler needs an eye shield if this is typical football play.

 

[HFCS]

I'm with everyone on Baylors previous transgressions being wholly underpunished.

Saturday wasn't a big deal, though. None of it was. No one went to take out a knee. Nothing was incredibly cheap or with intent of injury, and no one got hurt. The only real negative was the DM suspension which he could have avoided ( I said could, not should). There wasn't anything after the fight that happened. It just wasn't that big of a deal.

On Rhule: I think he is a good guy. I'm not going to pretend that he took the Baylor job because he felt it would be satisfying in cleaning up that mess. I will say, though, that would be the only reason for him to take that job and a trash human being doesn't do that. A Briles-like guy doesn't touch that job because you have 2-3 years of struggle. So, I think part of it was to come in a change the culture and that is at least somewhat respectable. I've always thought he came off as one of the good guys.

I feel this way every time I see their score on the ESPN scores.

I felt the same when Texas Southern knocked off their basketball team last week.

All it does is prove Penn State would have still gotten a slap on the wrist if they had caught Sandusky while he was still an active predator protected by their program.

 

[Tre4ISU]

I feel this way every time I see their score on the ESPN scores.

I felt the same when Texas Southern knocked off their basketball team last week.

All it does is prove Penn State would have still gotten a slap on the wrist if they had caught Sandusky while he was still an active predator protected by their program.

Well, I mean at some point society needs to hold the people making these decisions accountable. They don't want to right now and I've said this before but I think the things that have gone on in ADs across the country have really played into me not caring nearly as much about college sports anymore. I can tell you that if anything like that happened at ISU, I wouldn't give a **** what happened to the programs involved and I sure as hell wouldn't still root for them until every person connected directly and indirectly was gone. The thing is, though, when these things happen, the fanbase rallies around the coaches no matter what the information justifies. It's all so that they can win games that don't affect their lives in any important way. It's interesting really, and I like to see if there's ever a study done on this and tribalism in other areas of our society. I find it hard to believe that they aren't linked.

 

[HFCS]

Well, I mean at some point society needs to hold the people making these decisions accountable. They don't want to right now and I've said this before but I think the things that have gone on in ADs across the country have really played into me not caring nearly as much about college sports anymore. I can tell you that if anything like that happened at ISU, I wouldn't give a **** what happened to the programs involved and I sure as hell wouldn't still root for them until every person connected directly and indirectly was gone. The thing is, though, when these things happen, the fanbase rallies around the coaches no matter what the information justifies. It's all so that they can win games that don't affect their lives in any important way. It's interesting really, and I like to see if there's ever a study done on this and tribalism in other areas of our society. I find it hard to believe that they aren't linked.

I just meant their dirty play wasn't the main inspiration for my post. Just the fact that they are still playing so close to after their institution made this possible is insane.

Like you said, as an ISU grad holding a degree I paid a lot for and worked hard for, I'd demand the football program be suspended for a few years. Whatever could be done to not have people think about Penn State mass rapes or Baylor mass rapes when they see my degree at a job interview or the degree of 100s of thousands of other alumni.

Alumni who wanted Penn State or Baylor football to chug right along isn't just immoral in terms of the victims, they aren't even thinking rationally about their own financial and career self interests.

 

[cyfan92]

This is why

 

[Doc]

I'm with everyone on Baylors previous transgressions being wholly underpunished.

Saturday wasn't a big deal, though. None of it was. No one went to take out a knee. Nothing was incredibly cheap or with intent of injury, and no one got hurt. The only real negative was the DM suspension which he could have avoided ( I said could, not should). There wasn't anything after the fight that happened. It just wasn't that big of a deal.

On Rhule: I think he is a good guy. I'm not going to pretend that he took the Baylor job because he felt it would be satisfying in cleaning up that mess. I will say, though, that would be the only reason for him to take that job and a trash human being doesn't do that. A Briles-like guy doesn't touch that job because you have 2-3 years of struggle. So, I think part of it was to come in a change the culture and that is at least somewhat respectable. I've always thought he came off as one of the good guys.

Yeah, Rhule also apparently turned down the Colts job after a 1-11 start at Baylor which I think speaks to his character. I like what I've seen of him. The behavior on Saturday doesn't really bother me too much. It might be different if #52 slapping Montgomery around the ref wasn't so funny.

I also think Montgomery helped drag that one guy out of bounds so that didn't bother me too much. The taunting should've been called for sure though.

 

[Cy$]

Well, I mean at some point society needs to hold the people making these decisions accountable. They don't want to right now and I've said this before but I think the things that have gone on in ADs across the country have really played into me not caring nearly as much about college sports anymore. I can tell you that if anything like that happened at ISU, I wouldn't give a **** what happened to the programs involved and I sure as hell wouldn't still root for them until every person connected directly and indirectly was gone. The thing is, though, when these things happen, the fanbase rallies around the coaches no matter what the information justifies. It's all so that they can win games that don't affect their lives in any important way. It's interesting really, and I like to see if there's ever a study done on this and tribalism in other areas of our society. I find it hard to believe that they aren't linked.

Ever since the big 12 realignment, I’ve gotten more into pro sports like NFL and MLB and less into college sports. Basketball cheating and penn st. and Baylor stuff make me not care as much.

It seems like ncaa is basically a pro league now, I’d rather watch superior athletes if given a choice.

 

[ghettocowboy4cy]

Throw them out of the big 12 and add three more teams!

 

[Cardinal and Gold]

 

[Cyclone06]

Dear Baylor,

You are an embarrassment.

Signed,
The Big 12 Conference