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[rholtgraves]

Do we really care though? I have no desire to have Iowa kids just because they are from Iowa. And I don’t know that I want someone who wants to go to iowa. It shows s lack of basketball IQ.

? he didn't say that.
I think it is interesting there is a lack of bball talent in central Iowa and the reason behind that. It would certainly help ISU if central Iowa produced legit power 5 bball recruits.

 

[flycy]

My Favorite one from Johnny on Iowa Kids.

*Paraphrasing*

"There were 5 kids from Iowa we wanted, 3 came to Ames, 1 couldn't make it into school, and the other one went to Iowa, which is like not getting into school?

The end was “which is the same thing. “

 

[cyclonespiker33]

Tyreke Locure is a good talent but is limited by his size. I think I heard Dowling has a freshman that's going to be a really good one. It seems, to me, that Central Iowa focuses on football whereas Eastern Iowa focuses more on basketball.

 

[kingcy]

ISU would have taken Gatens, Gesell, Woodbury, Uthoff, Jok, Wieskamp and the younger McCaffery if the situation presented itself.

They may have taken them but it doesn't mean they would have played muck or at all. I think for both sides it is better the way it turned out.

 

[CyTwins]

He isn't nearly as big of a recruit as Woodbury. Woodbury was a top 50 player overall and Waggoner is another three star.

Congrats on just landing Waggoner

 

[iahawks]

Congrats on just landing Waggoner

Huge recruit!!!!!!

 

[coolerifyoudid]

Did he ever play like a top 50 recruit once he got to college? No. Fred always had an eye for talent and you can see why he didn't jump at the chance to recruit Woodbury.

It's almost like these two things belong in the same sentence.

 

[cyhiphopp]

It's almost like these two things belong in the same sentence.

Maybe, for Fred, Woodbury just didn't pass the eye test?

Maybe nothing Woodbury did poked out to Fred?


(That last one's a stretch)

 

[cyhiphopp]

It's almost like these two things belong in the same sentence.

Ooh ooh, I got another one.

Maybe Fred wasn't sure if he'd have a scholarship for Woodbury. He wouldn't want to leave him in the Lurch

 

[ISUTex]

ISU would have taken Gatens, Gesell, Woodbury, Uthoff, Jok, Wieskamp and the younger McCaffery if the situation presented itself.

I know, they had to settle for guys like DeAndre Kane, George Niang, Naz Long, Matt Thomas, Dustin Hogue, Abdul Nader, Jameel McKay, Monte Morris, Melvin Ejim, Nick Babb, Deandre Jackson, Cameron Lard, Solomon Young, Jakolby Long, Terrence Lewis, Lyndell Wiggington and other scrubs. Man, wish we had those Iowa boys.

 

[ISUTex]

You keep saying this...

Gatens - Yes
Jok - Absolutely
Uthoff - No doubt

Woodbury and Gessell?

If we took them, and then had the same players we ended up with, those Iowa boys probably would've all transferred to Iowa, Drake or UNI. Who would Uthoff play over? Niang? Nader? Doubt it. Uthoff played well the first half of his senior year, and then went into the witness protection program. Other than that, he wasn't that good. Same with Jok.

 

[iahawks]

If we took them, and then had the same players we ended up with, those Iowa boys probably would've all transferred to Iowa, Drake or UNI. Who would Uthoff play over? Niang? Nader? Doubt it. Uthoff played well the first half of his senior year, and then went into the witness protection program. Other than that, he wasn't that good. Same with Jok.

You are looking at everything in hindsight. During those players' senior years, they were highly sought after and most D1 programs would have gladly taken them.

 

[CRCy]

What exactly is Fran's style of play?

Up tempo, no defense, and turnovers.

Perfect recipe for success.

 

[inCyteful]

ISU would have taken Gatens, Gesell, Woodbury, Uthoff, Jok, Wieskamp and the younger McCaffery if the situation presented itself.

You could have maybe gotten away with this if you hadn't included Gesell and The 'Burry.

 

[inCyteful]

You are looking at everything in hindsight. During those players' senior years, they were highly sought after and most D1 programs would have gladly taken them.

I love it, doubling down on stupidity.

Are you using the same 'highly sought after' rating used for Garza and Nunge?

 

[iahawks]

You could have maybe gotten away with this if you hadn't included Gesell and The 'Burry.

Their college careers weren't great, but Woodbury was a huge recruit and Gessell was a very solid get also. Most D1 programs would have easily taken either one or both at the time.

 

[inCyteful]

Their college careers weren't great, but Woodbury was a huge recruit and Gessell was a very solid get also. Most D1 programs would have easily taken either one or both at the time.

Your delusional but that is your problem.

So you think the problem is more that Fran can bring in Championship level talent but doesn't know how to use or develop it?

 

[cyclonespiker33]

I think it's safe to say, that of the 7 Iowa guys on the hawkeye roster right now, Iowa State had little to no interest in any of them, for good reason.

 

[inCyteful]

Their college careers weren't great, but Woodbury was a huge recruit and Gessell was a very solid get also. Most D1 programs would have easily taken either one or both at the time.

And while your at it, what do you think all this elite talent saw in the Hok basketball program and Fran they enticed them to play there?

 

[Cyballzz]

If we took them, and then had the same players we ended up with, those Iowa boys probably would've all transferred to Iowa, Drake or UNI. Who would Uthoff play over? Niang? Nader? Doubt it. Uthoff played well the first half of his senior year, and then went into the witness protection program. Other than that, he wasn't that good. Same with Jok.

Uthoff averaged 19 points 6 boards his last 16 games. He averaged 18/6 his first 17.
Jok average 17 points 5 boards 3 assists his last 16 games. He averaged 22/6/2 his first 16.

Not exactly "witness protection." Those numbers would have found on home on our roster.