When do you think you will buy a 100% pure electric vehicle?

When will you buy a 100% pure electric vehicle?

  • Already Own One

    Votes: 54 6.7%
  • In the next year

    Votes: 8 1.0%
  • Between 1-5 years

    Votes: 144 17.8%
  • 6-10 years

    Votes: 184 22.8%
  • 10+ years or never

    Votes: 418 51.7%

  • Total voters
    808

SCNCY

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Even if they can get charging times down to just 5 or 10 minutes, I'd expect home/work/destination charging to account for a bulk of it. There will still be a market for people traveling, but I'd be surprised if we just swapped out gas for electricity and kept everything else about the same. Am I going to charge up at home/work/while I shop/eat or will I make a separate stop to charge up? Yeah, probably the first unless I can't avoid it for some reason.

It'll be interesting to see how it shakes out, because gas stations don't really make much money selling gas. They make their money inside the store, but gas is what drives the foot traffic.

When we were car shopping, I thought about this and came to the same conclusion. People are rarely going to have to go to a gas station for fuel, it’ll just be done at your house. Even when running chores, or commuting to work, most can still charge at home as a round trip should fit with a batteries charging capabilities.

The exception will be for long commutes, which for the majority of people will be rare instances as the bulk of people’s drives are short enough distances where a fully charged vehicle can make the rounds trip.

Bottom line, the gas vs electric debate is really about change. Some people are afraid of it because it’s not what they’re used to.
 

CycloneBax

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If 50% convert in the next 6-10 years, it will be less expensive to drive a gas car than a full electric. Personally, I drive 200 miles one way many weekends with a SUV. In the winter, this would be very challenging. I don't stop currently to drive 200 miles, with full electric I would need to in the winter.

I'm waiting for someone to do a decent hybrid SUV with a 300+ mile range on straight gasoline (15-20 gallon tank) and have the ability to plug it in. Toyota might be the first. Not sure I could afford it though. Maybe the government will give it to me LOL.

Also, an F-150 Lightning is not a truck. No ability tow anything for a long distance (>100 miles). It needs it's own category.....
 

RedlineSi

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If 50% convert in the next 6-10 years, it will be less expensive to drive a gas car than a full electric. Personally, I drive 200 miles one way many weekends with a SUV. In the winter, this would be very challenging. I don't stop currently to drive 200 miles, with full electric I would need to in the winter.

I'm waiting for someone to do a decent hybrid SUV with a 300+ mile range on straight gasoline (15-20 gallon tank) and have the ability to plug it in. Toyota might be the first. Not sure I could afford it though. Maybe the government will give it to me LOL.

Also, an F-150 Lightning is not a truck. No ability tow anything for a long distance (>100 miles). It needs it's own category.....
Lots to unplug here.

Where are you driving on the weekends in the winter? Where are you parking during this time? Why would you need to stop? There are already hybrid SUVs that can go 300+ miles on a tank of gas and plug in...

How is towing long distances the only thing that makes something as a truck?
 

KennyPratt42

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If 50% convert in the next 6-10 years, it will be less expensive to drive a gas car than a full electric. Personally, I drive 200 miles one way many weekends with a SUV. In the winter, this would be very challenging. I don't stop currently to drive 200 miles, with full electric I would need to in the winter.

I'm waiting for someone to do a decent hybrid SUV with a 300+ mile range on straight gasoline (15-20 gallon tank) and have the ability to plug it in. Toyota might be the first. Not sure I could afford it though. Maybe the government will give it to me LOL.

Also, an F-150 Lightning is not a truck. No ability tow anything for a long distance (>100 miles). It needs its own category.....
Not saying this is what you’re looking for, but just giving it as an example. My Mach-E CA Rt 1 AWD gets about 240 miles on a full charge in the middle of winter in Iowa. If I fully precondition before I leave my house it’s a little more than that. In the summer I get about 310 to 315. I’ve pretty easily made road trips to Kansas City, Omaha, and Minneapolis from the Des Moines metro.
 

cynuck

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We don't qualify for it. :confused:

I signed the binding contract to buy back in August last year that Rivian sent out. People who did that should qualify according to the old rules where there wasn’t an income requirement and be able to amend their 2022 tax returns.

I’ll believe it when it see it though, but looking forward to the car regardless.
 

RedlineSi

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I signed the binding contract to buy back in August last year that Rivian sent out. People who did that should qualify according to the old rules where there wasn’t an income requirement and be able to amend their 2022 tax returns.

I’ll believe it when it see it though, but looking forward to the car regardless.
I did sign that way back then...I'll have to dive into that. Lets see how that goes!
 

DSMCy

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Sorry if this has been discussed in earlier pages, but does anyone have the Chrysler Pacifica PHEV?

I've been considering switching from our ICE Pacifica to PHEV before year end to get the tax credit this year.
 

BCClone

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Losses like that are highly misleading. Its all fixed cost, cost accounting crap. They could depreciate more and double their losses. They could depreciate less and reduce them. Cash flow from ops is the key to watch. Which i am sure thats negative too, before financing.

Just pointing out for thise that might not understand. They arent putting 130k of parts and labor into each vehicle and selling for 100k.

Apologies for minor rant, i just really hate cost accounting. It’s skim milk pretending to be milk.
Yes, but when you get to 10-20 years (pending how they do things) all costs are variable. You still need to build cash for equipment and structures for future use. You can’t totally disregard them. I’ve seen too many people “live” on depreciation and when it stops, the taxes jump up and they have no reserves to replace equipment.
 

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