What's our Big 12 record going to have to be to make NCAA Tourney?

BigJCy

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Would think it would have to be pretty good with us basically only going to have 1 "decent" non-conference win this year (BYU). Going to take 10-11 wins in Big 12 play? If so, we may be NIT bound.
 
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acgclone

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I would say 10 + one i the B12 tourney will get it done assuming we win out the rest of our OOC which is not guaranteed.
 

gwoodclone

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Even assuming we don't lose to Drake, I think 11 absolute minimum. Probably 12, with at least one win over KU.
 

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10 wins in the Big 12 should get us a top 4 finish in the Big 12. Kansas is the only proven team in the conference right now and I think 2-8 is going to be a heck of a fight this year as no one really stands out right now. The cream will rise to the top by early Feb.
 

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I don't think BYU will end up be good, so I would say 12 should do, I see us getting around 8, think we will be tough at home and bad on the road...
 

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Minimum 11 wins I think. Should have 4 automatics with TCU and Tech twice. OU at home should be easy. Other than that.....going to be a scramble.
 

TallKidIsTall

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at least 10 wins

we went 0-3 in the 3 ooc games that wouldve looked decent on our resume in march

anything less than 10 and we dont deserve a bid with the big 12 looking worse than we thought itd be
 

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We didn't beat anybody in the non-con last year, just like this year. Last year, we went 12-6 in conference, with three wins over top 10 teams in the country, and still got stuck in the 8/9 game. I don't think people realize how much having 6 games against Baylor/Mizzou/Kansas helped last season. So I'm not even sure we're safe at 11-7 this season, if those 11 are something along the lines of TCU/@TCU/TTU/@TTU/UT/@UT/WVU/OU/OSU/BU/KSU, because that's a pretty empty 11-7 with this conference, this season.
 
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isuno1fan

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It will be easier this year since we broke the seal finally last year and represented ourselves well in the two games we played.

We'll get the benefit of the doubt this year IMO.
 
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12-6.

Anything less requires conference tournament wins and count on a team such as Baylor, WVA, OSU to steal our bid with a run to the conference semis or finals with their superior NC schedule and better conference tournament play.

I would say you can count on 3 Big 12 bids but who knows anything from 2-6 is possible. The PAC 12 last year didn't get many bids and a pretty good Arizona team with plenty of SOS/RPI got sent to the NIT.

11-7 with no wins over KU will not be enough the team will finish with 11 losses if they don't win the conference tournament and will have no signature wins.
 

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We didn't beat anybody in the non-con last year, just like this year. Last year, we went 12-6 in conference, with three wins over top 10 teams in the country, and still got stuck in the 8/9 game. I don't think people realize how much having 6 games against Baylor/Mizzou/Kansas helped last season. So I'm not even sure we're safe at 11-7 this season, if those 11 are something along the lines of TCU/@TCU/TTU/@TTU/UT/@UT/WVU/OU/OSU/BU/KSU, because that's a pretty empty 11-7 with this conference, this season.

You're on the right track, as far as "empty wins."

I haven't assessed remainder of other Big 12 non-conference at this point, but it looks like nearly all the projected upper-division teams won't exceed expectations. So it's possible there will be fewer chances to snag the biggies like last season.

Precise record isn't important, but the way it's looking:

Assuming ISU manages to go 10-3 in non-conference, BYU ends up as a good win and the losses are "quality losses" or at least non-detrimental, we probably need:

Category 1: Split with KU, OSU, OU, BU, KSU
Category 2: Sweep at least WVU or UT
Category 3: Sweep TCU and Tech

Could trade sweep-for-sweep within category 1.

That would be 12-6 ... probably safe around that range.