Well, he really, really hates the hire

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I wasn't going to read the article, but after reading some of the threads I thought I'd better see just how nasty Keeler was to Fred. Not a very inspiring article, but where's the venom for Fred? I'm no Keeler fan but I can't really find anything to rip him on in that article, am I missing something?
That was my opinion too-I thought when I read the post that the article was going to be much more negative.I don't get to (or have to) read Keeler's stuff though so I don't have a long-standing opinion of him. However I do prefer reading the other Keeler-Garrison Keillor that is:yes:
 

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I don't see where Keeler hates or even hints at hating the hire. He does jump around to a bunch of different topics (this was more of a blog than an article), but his points were pretty valid and aren't anything new to the discussion. Local recruiting and getting players to the next level are potential strengths, while having help from assistants on the gameday coaching aspects will be needed.
 

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I actually thought it was a pretty fair article, but then again I'm on record as defending Keeler a lot on here and not demanding that he kiss ISU's ***** every single time he puts pen to paper.

I agree it was a bit disjointed, but I think his point was with both us and Iowa hiring Iowa natives/alumni with ties to the area, why not take it one step farther and hire Hornacek. That's what I got from it anyway.

Like I've said before, he's no Clone lover, but I think he tries to cover ISU in a fair manner.

Keeler thinks its a bad hire ? That means that its a good hire for ISU !

He also likes Rhoads.
 

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REALLY think you misread the article. Keeler spends a bit of time saying Hoiberg can be VERY appealing to kids and his success will depend on his bench coach. Hate Keeler because he's a rectal bump, not because this article has an anti-ISU slant - because it doesn't.


Maybe, I did. I took it as "If you are going to hire an unqualified legend, you might as well hire one who is a bit more qualified" type of article.
 

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It's a 'safe bet' to write articles if you write that 'Hiring Hoiberg could be a bad move'. If he fails... you get to be the first to say I told you so, or I called it. But if he has success... you only wrote that it 'could' be a bad move.

Taking the easy way out rather than taking a stand.

It's not like any of the stuff being provided is really 'new insight'. We all know that the hire has some risk in it... we all pretty much agree on what things college kids are looking at in terms of what they want in a coach. It just so happens that a lot of us still really like the hire so these articles get written.

If you're going to provide us with the same opinion we already have... at least provide some new insight that everybody hasn't already considered before. Basing a new article off of two quotes from a new person, then rehashing the same topics again with different wording makes the articles uninteresting to me.
 
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I think it's a pretty good article. The point of it was showing how both universities are trying to use coaches who have ties to Iowa to rejuvenate hibernating fan bases. He also praised hoiberg for his nba ties and how big recruits like that.

People are quick to judget without using their head sometimes. Keeler is pretty good. Some people can't handle his criticism, but that's part of the job.
 

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I think it's a pretty good article. The point of it was showing how both universities are trying to use coaches who have ties to Iowa to rejuvenate hibernating fan bases. He also praised hoiberg for his nba ties and how big recruits like that.

People are quick to judget without using their head sometimes. Keeler is pretty good. Some people can't handle his criticism, but that's part of the job.

You are probably correct. I think it is fair to say, though, that in Keeler's "dream world" the Iowa Hawkeyes would be the dominant team in the state.
 

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Not that it is a big surprise considering what he's said before, but Keeler is out with another column about how the Hoiberg hire is a bad move.

The Hornecek angle is interesting, one would think if Keeler was against the Hoiberg hire he would be almost as against a Hornecek hire (almost because Jeff has coached a little bit, at least informally).

If Hornecek was interested in the job, it's too bad that he wasn't given the chance to interview, but the article doesn't state he was necessarily interested in the Iowa State job.

Keeler could be right, but he seems to be the only one screaming about it at every opportunity. And it is starting to get pretty annoying.

Keeler: What was old is new again for Cyclones and Hawkeyes | desmoinesregister.com | The Des Moines Register

Do you know how to read? He at best says the hire was quick and questionable. Who doesn't agree with that?
 

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How can the Rag afford to retain Keeler when . . . . he causes people to cancel subscriptions almost daily??? What insanity exists in that formula???
 

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How can the Rag afford to retain Keeler when . . . . he causes people to cancel subscriptions almost daily??? What insanity exists in that formula???



He has to write something, it's what he does for a living. What others things are there to write about ISU at this juncture?
 

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The Hire of the Mayor is a No Lose situation IMO. The hire generated excitement and will increase ticket sales in the short term. That means more revenue. If it works out, great. We have a HC for a long, long time. If not, we will have gained more revenue, and will go to the next option. Without really having lost anything because under GMac ticket sales were going to decrease and there was the very real probability that we would not be any better under GMac than we would be if the Mayor were to bomb completely.

I see no real downside. And there is no doubt that the hiring of the Mayor really has energized the base of the Cyclone Nation. And Cyclone Nation needed a total recharge.
 

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Keeler is terrible, why even bother reading his articles?

I read it this AM and didn't have a negative reaction at all. I came away wondering if there was any chance Hornacek could be added to the staff? Hornacek, Hoiberg & Otz would be a pretty formidable recruiting trio; who needs to know x's & o's if you recruit crazy-good players and run? It worked well for Oklahoma under Billy Tubbs...
 

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The Hire of the Mayor is a No Lose situation IMO. The hire generated excitement and will increase ticket sales in the short term. That means more revenue. If it works out, great. We have a HC for a long, long time. If not, we will have gained more revenue, and will go to the next option. Without really having lost anything because under GMac ticket sales were going to decrease and there was the very real probability that we would not be any better under GMac than we would be if the Mayor were to bomb completely.

I see no real downside. And there is no doubt that the hiring of the Mayor really has energized the base of the Cyclone Nation. And Cyclone Nation needed a total recharge.


Yeah I AGREE 100%............Absolutely NO DOWNSIDE to this hire.............

Fred mite just turn out to be the next greatest coach in college basketball........

Im willing to give Fred a shot at becoming a very very good mbb coach...:yes: