Way Too Early Look at Next Year

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  1. FinalFourCy

    FinalFourCy Well-Known Member

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  2. RustShack

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    Current lineup is

    Jackson
    Wiggington
    Babb
    Lard
    Young

    If Lewis starts, it isn't until Big12 play(See Niang, Morris, Young)

    Babb seen the floor this year because he has all the talent in the world and they see the potential(just like Burton last year). He will take a similar jump with a bigger role like Burton did.

    Bring in a Grad Transer, a Juco, and a transfer to sit out a year.
     
  3. cayin

    cayin Well-Known Member

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    Wigginton at 6'1 likely won't make the NBA as a shooting guard. At that size, if he ever has a chance to make it, it will have to be at pt guard. So I'm sure CSP convince to come to ISU and he would help mold him into an NBA prospect at pt guard. If so, he is going to have growing pains learning the position at this level, but in the long run, he may be a special one.
     
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  4. cyclones500

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    Regarding grad-transfers, I don't know if this would fit the roster or the likelihood of him choosing ISU, people with better recryutnebt knowledge on CF can analyze it, just throwing it into the mix. Stats for 16-17: 18.9/5.2/3.1.

    Elijah Brown to transfer from UNM
     
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  5. BillBrasky4Cy

    BillBrasky4Cy Well-Known Member

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    IMO if Babb is going to make a big improvement it all starts with getting some confidence shooting the 3 ball. If he can hit 3's at a decent clip that will completely change how teams have to guard him. He actually reminds me a lot of Ejim his freshman and sophomore years. At times he looks uncomfortable but you can also tell that he is a really talented kid.
     
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  6. Cyforce

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    Young
    Juiston
    Brown
    Wigginton
    Jackson

    Lard
    Kasongo
    NWB
    Lewis
    Long
    McNeill

    That looks like a team that could compete in the upper half of
    the conference.
     
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  7. FinalFourCy

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    With room for another guy, if needed, and probably even a rs transfer. Let's get them.
     
  8. jkclone

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    I said it before, but I really think part of his problem was that he wasn't needed to score and then when he struggled early it really hurt his confidence. I'd expect to see large growth when he knows he needs to shoot.
     
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  9. cyclone101

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    Ugh. Is it November yet?
     
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  10. ZB4CY

    ZB4CY Well-Known Member

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    Will we still get Bill Selfs 1st place vote next year?

    But really.. I think if Babb can play consistently like he did in the Big 12 Tourney this year plus with the work he puts in in the off season he could be a great asset to us. With that I like the lineup of..

    Jackson
    Wigginton
    Babb
    Lard
    Young

    Kasongo and Lewis first off the bench. I think Lewis can be a 3 for us if need be. Same for Lard. Obviously I'm not sure how their ball handling is.
    Long will need to prove himself this offseason. I'd like to think he developed a lot this year.
     
  11. SolarGarlic

    SolarGarlic Well-Known Member

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    Babb certainly flashes at times. He had some sweet passes against either TCU or WV (don't remember which) where he drove under the basket and fired one-handed bullets right on the money to open shooters. He was clearly playing with confidence. I'd expect that to be closer than the norm than the few times he dribbled off his foot. I don't expect Babb to be an all-out stud, but his offense will improve as his role expands.
     
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  12. FinalFourCy

    FinalFourCy Well-Known Member

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    Lard at the three?
     
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  13. cyclone101

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    Well Lewis is a 3 so I would hope he can play the 3 "if need be". Lard is a 4 or 5. Stretch 4 would even be pushing it to describe him imo. And from the sounds of it, if Kasango is our first guy off the bench, we're in trouble.
     
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  14. Cyclonepride

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    I think if Babb could get to even 35% from 3, he'd pose enough of a threat that they'd have to jump out on him with speed, and then he could drive around them (which is his primary threat in my opinion).
     
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  15. ILiftWithRoyce

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    I see us somewhere around 19-11 going into the BXII tourney next year, floating around the area that OSU and KSU did this year. We'll need a couple of big non-con or road wins to keep us from being a bubble team.

    I think that Babb will make strides as a shooter next season, which will make him a nice all around player. If he plays starter's minutes I don't think its unreasonable to see him as a 11/6/6 type of guy. I think a big wild card on our roster is J. Long. I really hope he makes strides like Naz did between his fresh and sophomore years.

    Assuming we get Julston, I'd envision a starting 5 of
    Jackson
    Wiggington
    Babb
    Julston
    Young

    With solid bench minutes from Lard, Long, and Lewis.
     
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  16. jcyclonee

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    Is it wrong that what I miss most from last year's Sweet 16 week is the guy who posted the question about driving his RV into Chicago and camping near United Center?
     
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  17. snowcraig2.0

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    That is a tourney team, IMO.
     
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  18. rholtgraves

    rholtgraves Well-Known Member

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    You can count on beating OSU two times next year. If they get their top two targets in Juiston and Edwards and add in another solid player as a transfer they can make the dance. It will all depend on how much new guys are ready and how much Young, Babb and Jackson improve.
     
  19. allfourcy

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    Holy Cow.....you do realize that this year's team had that many wins going in to BigI2 tourney, right? No way does next year's team do that, regardless who we sign. You are replacing an All-American pg, freak athlete, & loads of experience. I like optimism, but that's kool-aid at its finest right there, imo. There will be more losses due to inexperience & new faces to gel together, especially early, imo.
     
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  20. rholtgraves

    rholtgraves Well-Known Member

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    You also have to remember that Jackson didn't have much developmental time prior to joining ISU because of his wrist with an offseason to really put in some work he should be pretty darn good next year.
     
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