Any argument apologizing for UNL has to be directed here. The premise that they were victims of circumstance simply reacting in their best interest is a lie.
UNL AD mentions interest in future games vs. ISU
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Any argument apologizing for UNL has to be directed here. The premise that they were victims of circumstance simply reacting in their best interest is a lie.
Your wife divorced you.
It wasn't a gradual build that you both saw coming, it was abrupt, and every outward indication was she was still into you and things were fine. She even told you she was happy and she still found you attractive, and you were adequate and had a good thing together.
Then you were served divorce papers. Offers to attend counseling were hastily rejected. The main premise for being served? You couldn't provide the stability (read money) necessary for her to be happy. The house wasn't big enough and she couldn't stand most of your friends, especially the ones from work. Truth is you really didn't like a couple of those co-workers either, but you have thick skin and know the team is more important than yourself. At least that's what you thought, and it seemed keeping these friendships keep the company afloat so you could earn a relatively good living.
After the split, she's been telling folks how much better off her situation is now. Stability. Money. Quality friends. Everything is sunny and 70 degrees for her. Day after day too.
There's this thing though...she likes to thumb through the old photo album. She won't ever admit she made a hasty decision, left a good thing. She knows she traded a volume of history and old traditions and deep friendships for a few extra bucks. That mirror and the ability to look into it for reflection was broken a few years ago. Replacements aren't made on short order.
She called you on the down low the other day. Wants to go on a date. Strictly platonic now though. Thinks it would be fun to grab some of that history and try to be friends. She doesn't NEED you, but thinks it might be a hoot to relive past glory.
What would you say?
It wasn't a gradual build that you both saw coming, it was abrupt, and every outward indication was she was still into you and things were fine. She even told you she was happy and she still found you attractive, and you were adequate and had a good thing together.
Then you were served divorce papers. Offers to attend counseling were hastily rejected. The main premise for being served? You couldn't provide the stability (read money) necessary for her to be happy. The house wasn't big enough and she couldn't stand most of your friends, especially the ones from work. Truth is you really didn't like a couple of those co-workers either, but you have thick skin and know the team is more important than yourself. At least that's what you thought, and it seemed keeping these friendships keep the company afloat so you could earn a relatively good living.
After the split, she's been telling folks how much better off her situation is now. Stability. Money. Quality friends. Everything is sunny and 70 degrees for her. Day after day too.
There's this thing though...she likes to thumb through the old photo album. She won't ever admit she made a hasty decision, left a good thing. She knows she traded a volume of history and old traditions and deep friendships for a few extra bucks. That mirror and the ability to look into it for reflection was broken a few years ago. Replacements aren't made on short order.
She called you on the down low the other day. Wants to go on a date. Strictly platonic now though. Thinks it would be fun to grab some of that history and try to be friends. She doesn't NEED you, but thinks it might be a hoot to relive past glory.
What would you say?
ISU's bowl games this century have average attendance over 43,600. I wouldn't say the average ISU bowl game occurs "in an empty stadium".
I've wondered if the bball scrimmage had any impact on picking up Jacobson as Transfer
Anything that relies on the intensity of your fan base and its willingness to travel is going to be a huge exception when your same size is one and your sample is ISU.
Yeah, the game in the Bronx was relatively well-attended, but the atmosphere was lame. It was nothing compared to the grudge match that was the last game in Jack Trice for Nebraska and what a return visit to Ames and Lincoln would feel like for both programs.
Games against Rutgers are blah. Games against Nebraska were electric.
CycloneErik
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Mizzou was just a patsy, though. The Big 10 wasn't going to consider them a serious candidate. It just gave Nebbie cover to work behind the scenes to do actual damage that Mizzou's noise wouldn't have accomplished.
I understand the animosity toward Nebraska as an institution, but it seems some people are missing an opportunity that come from scheduling other regional opponents just to spite a former colleague.
Playing more games in the Midwest against top tier teams is a good thing for the visibility and perception of Iowa State. Right now ISU plays the same 10 schools every year, and has done so since 2012. That means that only 10 other fan bases really get a good look at ISU regularly. Outside of the state of Iowa and Big 12 territory, we are barely a blip on the radar. We aren't a national draw, and don't get national attention often, so any chance that we have to get in front of other audiences should be looked as an opportunity for growing the fan base, and more importantly, improving recruiting.
Coach Campbell has said he wants ISU to be the Big 12 team of the Midwest. If we can start playing teams like Minnesota, Illinois, Purdue, and, yes, even Nebraska, that can only help that goal. Playing Iowa year in and year out doesn't draw the attention of a kid out of small town Wisconsin, but visiting Madison does. The Cyclones traveling to Akron might help recruiting a little, but getting the Hoosiers or Boilermakers into Ames draws more eyes from B1G country. Beating up on South Dakota State won't pull recruits out of Lincoln and Omaha as much a game against the Huskers.
Yes, Nebraska almost sunk the conference and doomed ISU to G5 purgatory, but let's not be so petty that we pass on a good opportunity just because we think we are somehow getting back at them.
Playing more games in the Midwest against top tier teams is a good thing for the visibility and perception of Iowa State. Right now ISU plays the same 10 schools every year, and has done so since 2012. That means that only 10 other fan bases really get a good look at ISU regularly. Outside of the state of Iowa and Big 12 territory, we are barely a blip on the radar. We aren't a national draw, and don't get national attention often, so any chance that we have to get in front of other audiences should be looked as an opportunity for growing the fan base, and more importantly, improving recruiting.
Coach Campbell has said he wants ISU to be the Big 12 team of the Midwest. If we can start playing teams like Minnesota, Illinois, Purdue, and, yes, even Nebraska, that can only help that goal. Playing Iowa year in and year out doesn't draw the attention of a kid out of small town Wisconsin, but visiting Madison does. The Cyclones traveling to Akron might help recruiting a little, but getting the Hoosiers or Boilermakers into Ames draws more eyes from B1G country. Beating up on South Dakota State won't pull recruits out of Lincoln and Omaha as much a game against the Huskers.
Yes, Nebraska almost sunk the conference and doomed ISU to G5 purgatory, but let's not be so petty that we pass on a good opportunity just because we think we are somehow getting back at them.
This isn't an ISU initiative - this is Nebraska trying to go back to the 80s. They are pushing for 8-conference games because they want to minimize the embarrassment of playing against the Big 10 East heavy-hitters. They play Ohio State, Michigan State, and Michigan this season. I'm not sure how the cross-divisional games are figured out, but if Nebraska gets their way the timing could be perfect in 202X where they play the Big 10 West, Rutgers and Maryland* (not sure if this is an actual schedule, but it could be). Moos is trying to sneakily replace a match-up against Michigan or Ohio State with a "sentimental" match-up between Iowa State, or Kansas State. This isn't about renewing a rivalry or finding a regional opponent, it's exploiting Big 10 scheduling and the CFP system, which is why I think Nebraska can F*** off.
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I get what you are trying to say, but essentially, playing Nebraska gets us... additional Nebraska exposure (more or less). I am not sure that has much value. I home and home with the Gophers, yes please. A home and home with Wiscy, dicey, but I'd take it.
I know folks don't love the Akron home and home, but it does get us some Ohio exposure, and I think that still has more value than Nebraska exposure.
Long story, short: I don't see much value to a Nebraska home and home outside of maybe an easy road-trip for our fans.
Let Nebraska continue to stew in the football hotbeds of New Jersey and Maryland. Decisions have consequences, and I would rather ISU not help NU mitigate the bad ones they're reaping.
If we had to throw a bone to a legacy BXII team... I'd prefer Missery or Colorado.
We have the best TV coverage in the history of Iowa State Football. Any fan base in any part of the country can get a fantastic look at the Cyclones. In HD too!
**** Nebraska. **** them hard and long.
I'm glad NU, MU, and aTm are gone if only because I don't see "Nebbie, Mizzou, and Tammy" used anymore.
